How does Floyd deal with Pacman's speed & workrate?

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How do you know he won't have it?

I am not saying he won't.

But you should know by observation that fighters slow down in their 30s (Jones, Pea), moreso if they retire from the fight game for a while (Leonard, Robinson).

So if anything, the reasonable thing is to expect that he will have slowed down rather than not.

[fallenloki]

I am not saying he won't.

But you should know by observation that fighters slow down in their 30s (Jones, Pea), moreso if they retire from the fight game for a while (Leonard, Robinson).

So if anything, the reasonable thing is to expect that he will have slowed down rather than not.

Good point, but I don't expect him to have diminished.

Also, Pacquiao has given up and will continue to give up some of his speed to compete at higher weight classes.

This fight is going to be great either way. Lets just hope it happens.

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Good point, but I don't expect him to have diminished.

Also, Pacquiao has given up and will continue to give up some of his speed to compete at higher weight classes.

This fight is going to be great either way. Lets just hope it happens.

I am sorry to be insistent, but why you don't expect it to be diminished?

What makes Floyd different? He is certainly more disciplined than Robinson, Leonard or Whitaker were late in their careers. But so was Jones, and Jones did not even have a layoff to deal with.

And I do see this as a great fight too.

[The Gambler1981]

I am not saying he won't.

But you should know by observation that fighters slow down in their 30s (Jones, Pea), moreso if they retire from the fight game for a while (Leonard, Robinson).

So if anything, the reasonable thing is to expect that he will have slowed down rather than not.

See but Leonard and Pea played a part in their own downfall though. Floyd looks to party a lot, but he does not seem to have certain habits that helped to slow down Pea and Sugar Ray. Now he will slow down as he ages, but if he takes care of himself like he is known to (he looks in pretty impressive shape comming off a 2 year lay off 10 weeks out from a fight), it should be slower in truly effecting him.

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See but Leonard and Pea played a part in their own downfall though. Floyd looks to party a lot, but he does not seem to have certain habits that helped to slow down Pea and Sugar Ray. Now he will slow down as he ages, but if he takes care of himself like he is known to (he looks in pretty impressive shape comming off a 2 year lay off 10 weeks out from a fight), it should be slower in truly effecting him.

That I certainly agree with. Nonetheless I would be really surprised if the differnce between now and 2007 was not observable.

[fallenloki]

I am sorry to be insistent, but why you don't expect it to be diminished?

What makes Floyd different? He is certainly more disciplined than Robinson, Leonard or Whitaker were late in their careers. But so was Jones, and Jones did not even have a layoff to deal with.

And I do see this as a great fight too.

I'm not saying that he is beyond diminishing, but I don't think that time is now. If his skills were truly wearing down I don't think we'd see him coming back to fight some great opposition in Marquez, Pac, and whoever else he chooses to fight.

[The Gambler1981]

That I certainly agree with. Nonetheless I would be really surprised if the differnce between now and 2007 was not observable.

That is possible, but it would be totally blown out of proportion by a lot of people. Besides comming off a 2 yearish lay off should effect his timing which would make him seem a lot slower then before.

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I'm not saying that he is beyond diminishing, but I don't think that time is now. If his skills were truly wearing down I don't think we'd see him coming back to fight some great opposition in Marquez, Pac, and whoever else he chooses to fight.

Like I said I think he should be less affected than some of the fighters I mentioned. I am still curious to see how much.

However he picked Marquez exactly to know where he is at. Marquez would bring more speed than the welters, but also lee power so it's the perfect tune up.

[Technical_Skill]

By stepping to his left, Manny's output shuts down a bit when you move to your left, which is what mayweather sr was trying to get hatton to understand. Manny likes to line up the left hand, if you dont let him, I dont think he's the same fighter, and I dont think Floyd is gonna rush him hands down so he can land the right hook either.

[The Gambler1981]

By stepping to his left, Manny's output shuts down a bit when you move to your left, which is what mayweather sr was trying to get hatton to understand. Manny likes to line up the left hand, if you dont let him, I dont think he's the same fighter, and I dont think Floyd is gonna rush him hands down so he can land the right hook either.

Yea, to beat Floyd Manny has to use the uppercut. If he can do that he can win, if he can not Floyd will eventually eat him up.