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  • The Surgeon
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    #11
    Originally posted by mellow_mood
    theres whre i can get some heat.. and u are definitly right..

    but ...

    how u like it now... having a celestino caballero in the p4p list?

    and no mosley in the list?
    That aint my list tho, its a joke if u ask me Mosley is better and has done more in 2 fights than Cabellero has ever done

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    • mellow_mood
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      #12
      Originally posted by The Surgeon
      If Haye beats Wlad he is on mine. Klitchko aint good enough to make mine but if he was better i wouldnt have a problem putting him on, its about if everyone was the same size who would be best, the big guys dont have chance to jump around weights so it aint fair, Tyson was a weapon and was in the p4p rankings coz if he was a LHW or a SMW he'd still have been tearing people up! He never had the oppertunity to prove it but its all fantasy anyway so u gotta include them i think


      But its defo easier to rank someone like a Pac who has PROVED they can fight natuarally bigger dudes

      fair enough!!

      maybe with post from some of u.. like this one.. i can end it up changing my mind...

      still.. i think that at least 2 division champ.. will help to clear any disagreement on all lists.

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      • ßringer
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        #13
        My requirements for P4P list.......

        -Solid resume, against good opposition
        -Fundamental boxing skills and natural abilities
        -World Champion
        -Good looks
        -Rigid rod

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        • Left Hook Tua
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          #14
          pound for pound has nothing to do with jumping up and down divisions.

          pound for pound means just judging by skills and if fighters were all the same size.

          you don't have to fight in multiple divisions to be on the p4p list.

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          • Bhopreign
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            #15
            Originally posted by mellow_mood
            i know ... that u can have some exceptions like hagler... and its a very difficutl to agree with everybody..

            thats why a minimum requirement kind of filter some figthers who i think shouldnt be there...

            the other day i read someone saying that the only reason caballero was on the list.. is to help increases gamboa chances to be on it.. since they are about to fight.. and it seems like ppl are expecting gamboa to ocme out with the win
            Maybe if you stay in one division but you show you can beat just about all different styles that exception would come into play. To me P4P should be based on skill and beating good fighters, but Marg beat alot of pretty good fighters and we know his biggest asset was stamina, fact that he was big for the division, and "power", he was kinda slow but he did have some skill, method to his madness no doubt.

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              #16
              Originally posted by mellow_mood
              theres whre i can get some heat.. and u are definitly right..

              but ...

              how u like it now... having a celestino caballero in the p4p list?

              and no mosley in the list?


              Its all subjective. If you fight great fighter in one division and beat them in style of course you make the list.

              I mean Bernard was p4p purely because of his work at 160.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Fat Buu
                pound for pound has nothing to do with jumping up and down divisions.

                pound for pound means just judging by skills and if fighters were all the same size.

                you don't have to fight in multiple divisions to be on the p4p list.
                I agree but people have swayed from that reasoning, if that was the case Ivan Calderon should be top 5, if it was based on skill then IMO Pacquaio wouldnt be top ten 2006-2007 when he was beating guys off of just a 1-2.

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                • The Surgeon
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Bhopreign
                  I agree but people have swayed from that reasoning, if that was the case Ivan Calderon should be number one, if it was based on skill then IMO Pacquaio wouldnt be top ten 2006-2007 when he was beating guys off of just a 1-2.
                  Ivan is on or very near my top 10 most of the time but the little guys are over looked in general thats why he aint included as much, they dont get the same recognition and some of the opponents down that low aint to hot u know

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                  • mellow_mood
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by The Surgeon
                    That aint my list tho, its a joke if u ask me Mosley is better and has done more in 2 fights than Cabellero has ever done
                    true

                    Originally posted by The_Bringer
                    My requirements for P4P list.......

                    -Solid resume, against good opposition
                    -Fundamental boxing skills and natural abilities
                    -World Champion
                    -Good looks
                    -Rigid rod
                    thanks for sharing

                    Originally posted by Fat Buu
                    pound for pound has nothing to do with jumping up and down divisions.

                    pound for pound means just judging by skills and if fighters were all the same size.

                    you don't have to fight in multiple divisions to be on the p4p list.
                    thanks for sharing

                    Originally posted by Bhopreign
                    Maybe if you stay in one division but you show you can beat just about all different styles that exception would come into play. To me P4P should be based on skill and beating good fighters, but Marg beat alot of pretty good fighters and we know his biggest asset was stamina, fact that he was big for the division, and "power", he was kinda slow but he did have some skill, method to his madness no doubt.
                    thanks for sharing

                    Originally posted by Breadbin
                    Its all subjective. If you fight great fighter in one division and beat them in style of course you make the list.

                    I mean Bernard was p4p purely because of his work at 160.
                    i think that also had to do . with him beating tito.... who was consider a p4p fighter by that time.. .and then he moving up with tarver ... down with kelly etc etc....


                    once again thanks for sharing.

                    Originally posted by Bhopreign
                    I agree but people have swayed from that reasoning, if that was the case Ivan Calderon should be top 5, if it was based on skill then IMO Pacquaio wouldnt be top ten 2006-2007 when he was beating guys off of just a 1-2.
                    right on the bulls eye!!!

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                    • Owlzfan84
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by mellow_mood
                      why????

                      is not like hes moving down... to test his p4p abillities...


                      a hw can be in the p4p... but he have to earn it..

                      like haye is doing..

                      hes definitly a p4p candidate


                      thanks,, for discussin
                      Well even though heavyweights arent technically moving up and down in weight classes, it doesnt mean they arent fighting guys bigger then them or smaller then them. Heavyweight is a broad range. Over 200...meaning you could be 205 pounds and fighting a guy who's 260. Thats p4p to me.

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