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  • QUISQUEYA
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    #1

    The Rise and Fall of the Welterweight Empire...

    The rise and fall of the welterweight division

    A year or two ago, this division was ON FIRE. We had a star-studded 147 pound class with such names as Floyd Mayweather, Jr, Miguel Cotto, Paul Williams, Shane Mosley, possibly Oscar Delahoya, Andre Berto, Zab Judah, Joshua Clottey, Ricky Hatton, Kermit Cintron, Luis Collazo, etc.

    It was a huge tease, and we were all extremely excited. But in the intervening time, what did we get? Cotto-Margarito. A great fight, but the blemish just won’t wash off. Shane dismantled Margarito, but the plaster controversy is far-reaching: Tony will be out for another year. Oscar challenged Pacquiao at 147, and oddly enough, Delahoya opted to impersonate a piece of beef jerky that night. Mayweather spent more time in strip clubs and commercial sets than in a ring. And he has now returned to face off against…a lightweight? The most intriguing talent of all, Paul williams, was last seen 13 pounds north. Nobody seems to be answering Tall Paul's call at 147.

    In truth, Miguel Cotto has been the stalwart of the division. During the past eighteen months or so, Miguel has stepped into the ring to face Shane Mosley, Antonio Margarito, and Joshua Clottey (upcoming). His two previous fights were bruising, and you have to wonder how much Miguel will have left if he continues to engage in these wars.

    Plaster, "retirements", financial squabbles, and blatant cash-grabs. Ugh.

    Are you disappointed with how little we actually got from this division given the promises that the lofty talent offered?
  • -MAKAVELLI-
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    #2
    same **** at '40 a few years ago...PBF, Hatton, Cotto, Kostya, even Vivian Harris (for a brief minute) had people salivating at prospective bouts

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    • Kevin Jesus
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      #3
      Let's see what we got...

      Cotto vs Quintana
      Margarito vs Cintron I and II
      Mayweather vs Judah
      Mosley vs Cotto
      Williams vs Margarito
      De La Hoya vs Mayweather
      Williams vs Quintana I and II
      Mosley vs Margarito
      Hatton vs Collazo
      Mayweather vs Baldomir
      Clottey vs Margarito
      Baldomir vs Judah
      Cotto vs Judah
      Collazo vs Mosley
      Margarito vs Cotto
      Mayweather vs Hatton
      Collazo vs Berto
      De La Hoya vs Pacquiao
      Clottey vs Cotto(Upcoming)
      Berto vs Urango(Upcoming)

      Those are from the top of my head. I honestly am not disappointed at what the WW division has given to us boxing fans.

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      • QUISQUEYA
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        #4
        Originally posted by Kevin Jesus
        Let's see what we got...

        Cotto vs Quintana
        Margarito vs Cintron I and II
        Mayweather vs Judah
        Mosley vs Cotto
        Williams vs Margarito
        De La Hoya vs Mayweather
        Williams vs Quintana I and II
        Mosley vs Margarito
        Hatton vs Collazo
        Mayweather vs Baldomir
        Clottey vs Margarito
        Baldomir vs Judah
        Cotto vs Judah
        Collazo vs Mosley
        Margarito vs Cotto
        Mayweather vs Hatton
        Collazo vs Berto
        De La Hoya vs Pacquiao
        Clottey vs Cotto(Upcoming)
        Berto vs Urango(Upcoming)

        Those are from the top of my head. I honestly am not disappointed at what the WW division has given to us boxing fans.

        Margarito ducked the Williams rematch.
        Cotto (via Arum) "declined" Williams.
        Shane said outright that he doesn't want Williams.
        Floyd didn't fight Cotto, margarito, Williams or Shane.
        Judah is headed back to 140.

        I feels that we missed (or are going to miss) a lot.

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        • savorduhflavor
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          #5
          I agree man. The division had the talent, but didn't yield the fights it had the potential to.

          BUT, all is not lost yet....the windows closing, but it's not closed.

          Cotto-Clottey could be great.

          We could get Cotto-SSM 2 which would probably be great.

          Or if Cotto beats Pac at a catchweight, I bet we would FINALLY see Cotto-Mayweather at 147. That's the fight everyone wanted to see in early 2008, and even though Cotto lost, I think it still has some luster.

          Plus we can see fights like Berto/Quintana and fights like that.

          I think Mosley's ****ing **** up by being so stubborn. I understand his ***** is taking a bunch of his dough, but there aint nothing wrong with stayin busy and fighting Berto or someone. I'm sure he'll make 7 digits doin that.

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          • K-Nan
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            #6
            It had to end some time. The Middleweight division was looking ridiculous around that same time.. But then the fights happened and we dont view fighters in the same light. Boxing is a harsh sport: a loss counts here more than in any other sport. Its held against you.

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            • JACK D. RIPPER
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              #7
              Originally posted by QUISQUEYA
              Margarito ducked the Williams rematch.
              Cotto (via Arum) "declined" Williams.
              Shane said outright that he doesn't want Williams.
              Floyd didn't fight Cotto, margarito, Williams or Shane.
              Judah is headed back to 140.

              I feels that we missed (or are going to miss) a lot.
              The sport aint perfect but there have been a lot of good matches made. I'm not disappointed.

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