Hamed vs. Pacquiao, JMMarquez, Morales

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  • chilly9876
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    #11
    lol this seems like a hamed haters post..
    the fact of the matter is the pacman has no defence and comes steaming forward..that is what naz wants a fighter to do..a prime naz is faster,stronger,has a better array of punching and a better defense than pac-man. He has also got a better chin(from looking at both fighter's past fights).
    If jmm tried to slug with naz like he did in the 1st few rounds with pac-man, jmm wouldnt have gotten up like he did against pac-man.
    Morales would probably beat naseem on a points decision.

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    • Cletus Funk
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      #12
      Originally posted by chilly9876
      lol this seems like a hamed haters post..
      the fact of the matter is the pacman has no defence and comes steaming forward..that is what naz wants a fighter to do..a prime naz is faster,stronger,has a better array of punching and a better defense than pac-man. He has also got a better chin(from looking at both fighter's past fights).
      If jmm tried to slug with naz like he did in the 1st few rounds with pac-man, jmm wouldnt have gotten up like he did against pac-man.
      Morales would probably beat naseem on a points decision.
      I agree. It seems to be a common misconception on here that Hamed was chinny. I've only ever seen flash knockdowns when he's off balance. Never seen him hurt.

      Your right though, the only way Hamed beats Morales is if he lands a screamer on him.

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      • JOM'S
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        #13
        I am not a Hamed hater just did not believe too much on the Prince, and we missed to see Hamed fight our Luisito Espinosa, who back then was equally a powerfull puncher...

        But my take on a Hamed-Pac on their Primes

        1. we have not seen yet the prime of Pac and he has potential written all over him

        2. the Prince fools around a lot in the ring

        Pac KOs Hamed...

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        • Cletus Funk
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          #14
          Originally posted by jomapac
          I am not a Hamed hater just did not believe too much on the Prince, and we missed to see Hamed fight our Luisito Espinosa, who back then was equally a powerfull puncher...

          But my take on a Hamed-Pac on their Primes

          1. we have not seen yet the prime of Pac and he has potential written all over him

          2. the Prince fools around a lot in the ring

          Pac KOs Hamed...
          Not if Hamed hits him first

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          • J !
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            #15
            as frank points out, you guys probably didnt see hamed when he was at his very best, when he was with Ingle he the THE DOMINANT FEATHERWEIGHT OF THE 90'S.

            thats without discussion so before we all start rushing along saying how pac would do this lets have a moment of retrospect.

            Hamed was the best in his division in the nineties, held the WBO IBF AND WBC and never lost any of them in the ring.

            Beat good champs such as Steve Robinson, knocked out Medina (in his prime I add) ko'd Tom boom boom johnson, kelly, Paul Ingle, and decisioned former champ Cesar Soto.

            You seem to basing the fact that Pacman or Marquez would deal with Naseem on his showing agianst Barerra and the what Pac did to barerra.
            Well first off MAB was still at his very best and Naz was not, he had split with his mentor Ingle very accrimoniously, was not focussed and more interested in what colour the gloves were and how big his hoitel room was / grand his ring entrance would be than on focus in the ring.

            Turn back the clock 2 years and you would have been looking at a different fighter, so for me on achievement Naseem has done MUCH more at feather than pac, and to be honest I think a prime hamed boxes Pacquio into a ****ed hat at this stage my friends.

            too strong, too naturally big and too gifted in his prime.

            You guys do make me laugh, Pacquio beats a suddenly ageing barrerra gets an underserved draw (IMO) agianst Marquez and that means he is up there with the like of Sandler , Pep, Sanchez, Nelson.

            Pacquio has alot to prove at feather yet.


            Hamed while being an obnoxious little ****, and I dislike him was a supremely natural boxer with natural power, dont underestimate how good he was. Look past his poor showing vs MAB and check his record out, he was the dominant feather of the 90's end of.

            I dont think Pacman would have beaten barry mcguigan niether nor pedroza, theres so many great fighters in the archives at various stages of their careers and believe me most of em would have smashed through Pacquio's suspect defence and shattered the hype.

            He can hit though, but Pacman at feather so far is about potential he has proved **** all yet. He may well go on to be one of the greats but at present he has done nothing to warrant the current level of adulation. Not in my book not by a long way

            Sorry if this sounds a bit anti pacman but Im not, I just fidn he is being over rated at present.
            Last edited by J !; 11-15-2004, 11:13 AM.

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            • drag0n_
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              #16
              I think Naz KO's Pac...
              Morales wins on points.
              And i cant say with JMM. Would be a very good fight, i would say JMM is the better boxer, but Naz had that outrageous power which would Kill JMM if he lands it. So a 50/50 for me.

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              • jujitsujn
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                #17
                Hamed was never that good.

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                • J !
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by jujitsujn
                  Hamed was never that good.

                  extrapolate please.

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                  • abdiel2k3
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by jomapac
                    So I guess nobody wants to see Hamed fight anymore....
                    id still like to see him "fight"
                    meaning just get beat some more
                    he just was so damn arogant and disrepectful to so many fighters he needs a couple more beatings from some the guys mentioned on here
                    his worse **** ive seen that appauled me was in his fight with wayne mcCoullough
                    the announcers were talkin about how people had started to call him Little Ali
                    and it cleary went to his head
                    he was tryin to box and float and land a nice jab like Ali
                    but he jus failed miserably
                    it was disgusting

                    i mean
                    ya hamed can come back and still take over
                    he was incredible
                    like a panther
                    "just incase he visits this site then he'll think we still believe or like his ass, then maybe he'll take some fights with these top guys so they can beat his ass some more"

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                    • J !
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                      #20
                      no one wants to see him fight cos he wont make a very good light heavyweight.

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