What must PBF do to beat JMM?

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  • sycomantz
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    #61
    Originally posted by Pullcounter
    will you guys be dissappointed it floyd doesn't pressure jmm? floyd is the biggger guy.
    why would we, PBF isnt a pressure fighter. hes a defensive counter punch that mixes in the offensive and begins to pressure his fighters as he wears them down.

    this is exactly what im talking about. alot of you have a fundamental misunderstanding of boxing, why PBF is so great and why JMM and PACman arent on his level

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    • sycomantz
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      #62
      Originally posted by Stickman
      I don't think it was Diaz's speed, so much as his work rate, and his constant pressure, that bothered Marquez. Also, his catching more punches in the last couple of years is largely due to his changeup in styles. He's being far more aggressive now than he used to be. Not to long ago, he was almost strictly a counterpunching ring technician. These days, he's pressuring nearly as much as he's laying back and waiting to counter. Makes for a much more exciting fight, nets him bigger paychecks, but part of the penalty for that is being much more open to getting caught.

      I agree, though, that Mayweather has to use his jab like he never has. About the only thing that seems to shut Marquez down and keep him from countering as much is a stiff jab when it's doubled and trippled, and thrown with great frequency. If Floyd starts and finishes every combination with 2 or 3 quick, hard jabs, he could nullify about 75% of JMM's fight plan.
      mayweather uses a RIGHT HAND LEAD. its not a jab but functions like one and throws people off

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      • Stickman
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        #63
        Originally posted by sycomantz
        mayweather uses a RIGHT HAND LEAD. its not a jab but functions like one and throws people off
        Yep, and when he throws that lead right, he'll be countered with an overhand right and a left uppercut.

        He's got to use a jab.

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        • sycomantz
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          #64
          Originally posted by Stickman
          Yep, and when he throws that lead right, he'll be countered with an overhand right and a left uppercut.

          He's got to use a jab.
          not going to happen, JMM is too slow. sorry pal

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          • rod_serrs
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            #65
            I think the question really should be what does JMM have to do to beat PBF. Its obviously no secret that PBF is content running around playing tag with his contenders and picking up a decision win. JMM needs to keep his work rate up and make sure his legs are as fresh as PBF's for the entirity of the fight. PBF can pretty much fight his normal fight and still pick up a decision with relative ease.

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            • Obusv477
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              #66
              He just needs to be patient like he usually is. JMM being a counterpuncher that would be hard to do. But since JMM has more to lose, imma go out on a limb and say he will feel the need to press the action. Ideally JMM would want Floyd to commit first, and Floyd being the bigger guy, he might be tempted to...Foyd needs to not fall for that. I think this the only way JMM has a chance to win....like I said, Floyd just needs to be patient, he got all the advantages, and he should win this.

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              • Pullcounter
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                #67
                Originally posted by sycomantz
                why would we, PBF isnt a pressure fighter. hes a defensive counter punch that mixes in the offensive and begins to pressure his fighters as he wears them down.

                this is exactly what im talking about. alot of you have a fundamental misunderstanding of boxing, why PBF is so great and why JMM and PACman arent on his level
                yeah but pbf will have to win spectacularly... he's the bigger guy.

                if jmm makes it 12 there will be questions cause floyd is too big for jmm

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                • sycomantz
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Pullcounter
                  yeah but pbf will have to win spectacularly... he's the bigger guy.

                  if jmm makes it 12 there will be questions cause floyd is too big for jmm
                  thing is that it wont go 12. so there wont be any questions

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                  • Pullcounter
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by sycomantz
                    thing is that it wont go 12. so there wont be any questions
                    yeah but what if it does. I think it will, becuz both are defensive masters

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Silencers
                      Mayweather should make Marquez lead and come to him, Marquez for all his counterpunching skills isn't a great offensive fighter, he gets hit quite a bit when he gets offensive, like in the Jaca and Jandaeng fights, it also cost him his fights against Pacquiao and led to him getting hit more than he should have against Barrera. He's a great counterpuncher and great at timing opponents but offense is not his strong suit.

                      I think a potentially big weapon for Mayweather in this fight is his left hook, either off a feint or off a jab to the body, which would bring Marquez' right hand down if the Diaz fight is anything to go by, Marquez didn't know where that left hand would be going, Diaz stunned him with a left hook pretty badly, if Mayweather can do the same thing, he'd probably get Marquez out of there.
                      You are probably my favorite poster on this site..I always respect the knowledge of the sport that you bring to this forum..MUCH PROPS BRO!

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