Mayweather vs. Pavlik or JMM vs. Mayweather. Equally (un)fair?

[BattlingNelson]

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Thanks chunk, but what about the endless stream of legit welters who called out Mayweather? What about them?

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So now Floyd Mayweather fights JMM at 144-145 lbs thereby forcing him to move up 2 full weightclasses.

Wouldn't it be the same as Mayweather fighting Pavlik at 158?

Facts:

Mayweather has fought 5 fights at or above welterweight.

JMM has fought only twice as a lightweight.

Which matchup seems most fair to you or would you consider those fights equally (un)fair?

Are you serious? just look at the size of fighters you mentioned...

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Mayweather started at 130 pounds. Marquez, as far as I know, started at 126. They are the same.

This isn't like Pacquiao and De La Hoya, where De La Hoya started about 30 pounds bigger than Pacquiao.

We're talking about two natural lightweights fighting as welterweights.

Except one is 35 and unproven at the weight. But yeah, it's the same.

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This is the most ******ed thread I have seen from a usually good poster.

These are more numbers, relevant to understanding this fighters' actual size

Pav-PBF PBF-JMM

Height difference.................3"............................1"

in ring weight difference........20lbs.....................5lbs

difference of weight class.......30lbs.....................4lbs
where they had
most of their fights

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That being said, it is very sad the p4p #2 can be used as a tune up by anyone.

[Chunk..]

Thanks chunk, but what about the endless stream of legit welters who called out Mayweather? What about them?

What about them? He's coming back to fight the P4P#2 after a year out.

We're making a bigger deal out of this then it actually is. We all want to see Floyd fight the likes of Cotto and Mosley but we should all know by now that Floyd won't put himself at serious risk against fighters that might actually beat him.

You know it, i know, my cat 'Missy' knows it. Yet we have endless threads on here justifying this point time and time again.

The Floyd haters and the Floyd stans are all cut from the same cloth as far as i'm concerned.

[Pullcounter]

floyd doesn't care if you hate him or love him, as long as you pay

[BattlingNelson]

Are you serious? just look at the size of fighters you mentioned...

Hmm... Poor 35 year old JMM has been a LW for less than a year and now has to jump 2 weightdivisions. PBF on the other hand is a fullgrown WW having fought at or above the weight for the past 3½ years.

This is the most ******ed thread I have seen from a usually good poster.
These are more numbers, relevant to understanding this fighters' actual size

Pav-PBF PBF-JMM

Height difference.................3"............................1"

in ring weight difference........20lbs.....................5lbs

difference of weight class.......30lbs.....................4lbs
where they had
most of their fights

Thanks but I felt a need to illustrate the monumental task JMM is facing.

The comparison between JMM moving up 2 weightclasses and PBF doing the same doesn't seem too farfetched to me espacially when you consider that boxing is divided in WEIGHT divisions and not height or reach divisions. Otherwise the Leonard-Hearns fight would have been ******ed.

That being said, it is very sad the p4p #2 can be used as a tune up by anyone.

Indeed it is. Thank god Vitali didn't choose Hopkins (a p4p-pounder as well) as his comeback-opponent instead of Peter. That's two divisions as well but there you can talk about a sizedifference.

[deanrw]

I agree. JMM is being pulled way out of his element for this fight. It just is not right. He is willing to take that risk I suppose, so props to him.

It still makes Floyd look like the schoolyard bully though IMO. The old saying "pick on someone your own size" rears it's ugly head at Floyd once again.

Hey Floyd. Darchinyan is looking for a fight I hear.

[BattlingNelson]

I agree. JMM is being pulled way out of his element for this fight. It just is not right. He is willing to take that risk I suppose, so props to him.

It still makes Floyd look like the schoolyard bully though IMO. The old saying "pick on someone your own size" rears it's ugly head at Floyd once again.

Hey Floyd. Darchinyan is looking for a fight I hear.

Straight talk as usual Dean!