Mayweather vs. Pavlik or JMM vs. Mayweather. Equally (un)fair?

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  • kayjay
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    #161
    Originally posted by K-Nan
    Hey guys, fuck all the personal arguments. We're all boxing fans and at the end of the day I'm sure we'd all like to talk to fans as knowledgeable on the sport as us in person. I would have a drink and watch a fight with any of you mofos.
    One day we'll watch one together, Kay2. Did you hear Brook and I are watching Wlad-Haye together?

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    • -Swizzy-
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      #162
      Originally posted by BattlingNelson
      So I am ridiculous for thinking Tommy Hearns vs. Ray Leonard and Paul Williams vs.Winky etc. were fair fights?

      You're thinking that those fights were unfair right?
      don't put words into my mouth. I consider height and reach as an attribute just like boxing skill, power and speed. I don't consider them unfair but obviously those should be considered when comparing fights. if you're going to consider height and reach as unfair, than you might as well consider the difference in skill, power and speed as unfair.

      weight on the other hand should not be considered unless its at an extreme. like if one fighter is a fat ass and the other is really cut. other than that, weight isn't at all considered in a fight for me.

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        #163
        Originally posted by Easy-E
        Your post represents a fundamental misunderstanding regarding the body weight percentage and toll of weight gain from lower to heavier weights.
        Apparently DLH v Pac and Pac v Hatton were not fair in your book either, and we saw what happened there.
        Stop trying to discredit Floyd for fighting a great fighter and give other guys the pass.
        I questioned the fairness. I didn't judge.

        Maybe I have a fundamental misunderstanding regarding the body weight percentage and toll of weight gain from lower to heavier weights. So there is a major difference between going from 135 to 145 as compared to going from 147 to 158? Howcome?

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          #164
          Originally posted by kswizzy99
          don't put words into my mouth. I consider height and reach as an attribute just like boxing skill, power and speed. I don't consider them unfair but obviously those should be considered when comparing fights. if you're going to consider height and reach as unfair, than you might as well consider the difference in skill, power and speed as unfair.

          weight on the other hand should not be considered unless its at an extreme. like if one fighter is a fat ass and the other is really cut. other than that, weight isn't at all considered in a fight for me.
          Mmmmm..... ok.

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            #165
            lol wot a ****** thread,how can u compare those 2 fights seriously

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              #166
              Originally posted by kayjay
              One day we'll watch one together, Kay2. Did you hear Brook and I are watching Wlad-Haye together?
              No ****?! Thats cool **** KJizzle. You're well on your way to having had met the most people on BS in person. It's between you and Peebs.

              You two are better drunkenly rejoice when that KO happens.

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                #167
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                Mmmmm..... ok.

                thats your intellectual response to my post?

                how about you tell me why it is exactly that you disagree with that comment.

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                  #168
                  Originally posted by british_fan
                  lol wot a ****** thread,how can u compare those 2 fights seriously
                  Why do you think those fights are uncomparable?

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                  • kayjay
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by K-Nan
                    No ****?! Thats cool **** KJizzle. You're well on your way to having had met the most people on BS in person. It's between you and Peebs.

                    You two are better drunkenly rejoice when that KO happens.
                    I'll have to leave right after the fight. The stars aligned for this one: I was invited to a wedding in Brooklyn that night. I'm not telling the groom why, but my RSVP said I might be a little late.

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                      #170
                      Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                      Why do you think those fights are uncomparable?
                      well look at when each guy is/was at there best fighting weight

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