Does Pavlik need to ditch Jack Loew??

[larry x]

you mean mr..double the ****ing jab???naw..loyalty is a missing thing in boxing..fighters always blame the trainer

[larry x]

All you need to ask yourself is whos Jack Loew? who else does he train? the guy is riding Pavliks coatails and its disgusting.

riding his coat tail???he got his to the top level..

[MagicManBoxing]

There are people that think he should stick with Loew still???i was asking for him to switch trainers even before the hopkins fight.

[Pullcounter]

i think another devastating loss and arum or pavlik's manager might move to get him replaced

[-X-]

I think so. A world class trainer and Pavlik would be a deadly duo.

[deanrw]

Pavlik is not an Elite fighter. He will never be an elite fighter no matter what trainer he has. He will never beat an elite fighter.

He is a good fighter though and can beat other good fighters. His style dictates that he will be able to handle himself just fine at 160 as there are no other Elite fighters from 160-168

Just good fighters in his range and he will do just fine with them.

[Bhopreign]

I think telling him to double jab early on was the right thing. Double jabbing messes up the timing of the opponent who is trying to counter, in this case Bhop. He kept telling him to double jab because he never really started to, so he kept telling him to at least do that to see what happens. But I dont think Kelly was able to do things he wanted to that night.

[Hitman932]

I am pretty sure Jack Loew has forgotten more about boxing than anyone in this thread has ever learned.

[MagicManBoxing]

He needs Steward.

[Hitman932]

He needs Steward.

Why?

So Steward can teach him to double his jab and throw the right behind it?

Cause that's his forte as a trainer.