In response to the article posted in "WOW!! Floyd gets ripped a new ******"

[Vasyl’s dad]

In the condensed version,


"Mayweather wants to make the most money for the least amount of risk".



What else is new?

[Bullet Bill]

In the condensed version,


"Mayweather wants to make the most money for the least amount of risk".



What else is new?

why do you care?

[Bullet Bill]

Old article pre retirement for Floyd and pre Cotto losing to Margarito and Manny making his run at the title of P4P and Manny becoming the biggest face in Boxing overnight....Good read though just not current Bill.....Lefty

this is the post i wanted you to focus on...and how most people dont understand this point of view that this writer displays..


As a warrior in an unforgiving sport, Mayweather may not always have the opportunities to do Wrestlemania, Dancing With The Stars, or any future celebrity events. In boxing, and professional sports in general, you have to act while you can and take advantage while you are hot. Injuries, accidents, negative press, like dogfighting for instance, or any circumstances causing a loss of marketability, could offset these opportunities very quickly. In layman's terms, its called going from hero to zero. Take a look at Prince Naseem Hamed and the rise and fall of his career in record time. Or Mike Tyson's crash and burn at the hands of gorgeous women and bad financial decisions. Even boxing great Joe Louis was chewed up and spit out once the gloves came off. As an active fighter, Mayweather could of easily missed out on proposed rematches with De La Hoya and Hatton if he didn't accept them accordingly. Boxing fans must realize that every fighter wants to fight De La Hoya and Hatton. It means a major payday which is clearly a goal for every prizefighter; even modest contenders will often accept a fight "only if the money is right."


It's been stated by many critics that Floyd is all about money and has tarnished the sport. Take some time to consider, however, how a fighter like Juan Manuel Marquez could end up fighting and losing a title shot in Indonesia for 31,000 dollars. You have to be smart as a prizefighter, you can't just accept fights because promoters, sanctioning bodies, networks, or even pushy fans want you to. Too many fighters have become ****** and puppets to the system. The big promotion companies are well known to have taken advantage of many fighters throughout the years. How much bad press has Don King, Bob Arum, and even the upstart Golden Boy Promotions received when it comes to actually paying their fighters and treating them with respect? Every week we hear about another fighter leaving their promoter, or buying out their contract, or being dropped from a network. Mayweather long ago freed himself from the corruption when he rejected HBO's offer as a slave contract and subsequently bought out his contract with Top Rank promotions. As a result, he has flourished under his own guidance; yet unjustly criticized for being successful.

When you look pass the money, Mayweather and even the former P4P king Roy Jones are actually truer to pure boxing than most big names in the sport. These two fighters are actually marketed for their skill set, not their personalities. De La Hoya on the other hand, sells his Pay-Per-Views based on personality and charm alone, not boxing ability. Is this why we watch boxing, to see personalities joust or skills clash? When you pay to see Floyd, the expectation is that you will see the best skills in boxing. When you pay to see Oscar, there are no expectations, he could win or lose with no penalty. If Mayweather or Jones lose a fight, they lose everything. They are burdened with having to be perfect. The repercussions of Jones' losses to Tarver and Johnson is the perfect example of why Mayweather knows he can't lose. If he were to be defeated, proponents and detractors in this “unforgiving sport” would attempt to destroy everything he has fought for.

[Vasyl’s dad]

why do you care?

I'm a boxing fan who wants to see the best take on the best.


Mayweather is one of the best in and around his weightclass, whichever one he makes up.


The bests in other divisions, take on the other bests in their divisions.

Its quite simply really.


But we've already lived without Mayweather in the scene and its thrived in his absense.

He adds another exciting element to the sport in regards to possible matchups if he chooses to take on the best regardless of money.

Why do you care about his money?

[BmoreBrawler]

not a horrible post, lefty. If you can admit these three things, you will be well on the road to recovery:

1. Pac has a better record than Mayweather
2. Mayweather was/is ducking Cotto
3. Mayweather has 1 loss(castillo).

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

Nice effort lefty

Mayweather picks on smaller fighters!

Now this postulat became as evident as ever in this comeback against JMM a fighter from 2 weightclasses below. This fight is being set-up as a legitimate p4p fight. Pretty jokish. It insults the intelligence of true hardcore fans who felt that Mayweather should fight a WW since he wants to fight in that division. Forcing a man to move up 10 pounds for a fight is just not right. If Floyd wanted to shed some rust why doesn't he fight a WW from the lower half of the top 10?

Funny thing is that Mayweather said that he'd come back for legacy fights only. In that regard this fight is pretty worthless and Floyd's status would take a massive hit should he unexpectedly lose.

Meh I doubt that Mayweather will ever face Cotto (or even the ancient Shane Balco Mosley) and instead take on pac next and probably at 147 pounds before retiring again.

My problem with PBF lies not in what he does in the ring but rather outside it.

Bat I tell you the truth after what PACMAN did to Oscar at 147 to see JMM fight at 145 and win is not out of the question. JMM is a determined fighter with a high level skill set. It is not like Floyd is fighting David Diaz. he is fighting the man who is most menacing to the man right now and that man is PACMAN. To think that Floyd would beat PACMAN easily is as our english fans would say rubbish. JMM is not going to be a walk in the park after coming off an 18 month layoff. There is no more divisions Bat just a bunch of cowboys out to make a buck. there aren't any belts in fact there are too many belts now thw only ones that matter is the Ring and P4P label. Fighters aren't fighting for the WBc or the WBA they are fighting for PPV buys and P4P labels. We are dinosaurs my friend if we think we are going to see unified champions and fighters cleaning out weight classes like the olden days. Boxing has elvolved. the new boxing is filled with catch weight matches of house hold names trying to make a bid for the buk and get you to press that little blue buy button on your remote. Money may aint no different. JMM on the other hand is a man possesed on a mission to prove he is the best. he wants to prove that he best Pacman 2 times already and that he is the best P4P and to me I think he will not lay down as easily as we all seem to think. Question is will he have the fire power to hurt Floyd? Well have we ever really seen Floyd hurt or hit with a clean shot?....Lefty

[QUISQUEYA]

Nice effort lefty

Mayweather picks on smaller fighters!

Now this postulat became as evident as ever in this comeback against JMM a fighter from 2 weightclasses below. This fight is being set-up as a legitimate p4p fight. Pretty jokish. It insults the intelligence of true hardcore fans who felt that Mayweather should fight a WW since he wants to fight in that division. Forcing a man to move up 10 pounds for a fight is just not right. If Floyd wanted to shed some rust why doesn't he fight a WW from the lower half of the top 10?
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Big Nelz,

Mayweather gave up 10 pounds to Chico, 9 pounds to Castillo, 10 pounds to Gatti, six pounds to Hatton and 18 pounds to Delahoya.

Help me understand the history/examples that you are applying when you say that FMJ picks (PICKS!!) on smaller fighters.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

this is the post i wanted you to focus on...and how most people dont understand this point of view that this writer displays..


As a warrior in an unforgiving sport, Mayweather may not always have the opportunities to do Wrestlemania, Dancing With The Stars, or any future celebrity events. In boxing, and professional sports in general, you have to act while you can and take advantage while you are hot. Injuries, accidents, negative press, like dogfighting for instance, or any circumstances causing a loss of marketability, could offset these opportunities very quickly. In layman's terms, its called going from hero to zero. Take a look at Prince Naseem Hamed and the rise and fall of his career in record time. Or Mike Tyson's crash and burn at the hands of gorgeous women and bad financial decisions. Even boxing great Joe Louis was chewed up and spit out once the gloves came off. As an active fighter, Mayweather could of easily missed out on proposed rematches with De La Hoya and Hatton if he didn't accept them accordingly. Boxing fans must realize that every fighter wants to fight De La Hoya and Hatton. It means a major payday which is clearly a goal for every prizefighter; even modest contenders will often accept a fight "only if the money is right."


It's been stated by many critics that Floyd is all about money and has tarnished the sport. Take some time to consider, however, how a fighter like Juan Manuel Marquez could end up fighting and losing a title shot in Indonesia for 31,000 dollars. You have to be smart as a prizefighter, you can't just accept fights because promoters, sanctioning bodies, networks, or even pushy fans want you to. Too many fighters have become ****** and puppets to the system. The big promotion companies are well known to have taken advantage of many fighters throughout the years. How much bad press has Don King, Bob Arum, and even the upstart Golden Boy Promotions received when it comes to actually paying their fighters and treating them with respect? Every week we hear about another fighter leaving their promoter, or buying out their contract, or being dropped from a network. Mayweather long ago freed himself from the corruption when he rejected HBO's offer as a slave contract and subsequently bought out his contract with Top Rank promotions. As a result, he has flourished under his own guidance; yet unjustly criticized for being successful.

When you look pass the money, Mayweather and even the former P4P king Roy Jones are actually truer to pure boxing than most big names in the sport. These two fighters are actually marketed for their skill set, not their personalities. De La Hoya on the other hand, sells his Pay-Per-Views based on personality and charm alone, not boxing ability. Is this why we watch boxing, to see personalities joust or skills clash? When you pay to see Floyd, the expectation is that you will see the best skills in boxing. When you pay to see Oscar, there are no expectations, he could win or lose with no penalty. If Mayweather or Jones lose a fight, they lose everything. They are burdened with having to be perfect. The repercussions of Jones' losses to Tarver and Johnson is the perfect example of why Mayweather knows he can't lose. If he were to be defeated, proponents and detractors in this “unforgiving sport” would attempt to destroy everything he has fought for.

I understood that but still not current since PACMAN has took over the sport in his absence. The part about him replacing OScar as the big money cow and face of boxing well PACMAN has took that spot by storm....Lefty

[Bullet Bill]

I'm a boxing fan who wants to see the best take on the best.


Mayweather is one of the best in and around his weightclass, whichever one he makes up.


The bests in other divisions, take on the other bests in their divisions.

Its quite simply really.


But we've already lived without Mayweather in the scene and its thrived in his absense.

He adds another exciting element to the sport in regards to possible matchups if he chooses to take on the best regardless of money.

Why do you care about his money?

i dont care about his money. Never said I did.

It seems to me if fans like you would spend 1 quarter of the time you do complaining mayweather not fighting your favorite fighter of the moment and who he should fight and encourage other fighters to make exciting matches and enhance their legacy, boxing would be a better sport.

Andre berto is fight unrango what is your opinion on that?
shane mosely is ducking paul williams what is your opinion on that?
Forrest is ducking Martinez what is your opinion on that?
Margarito is trying to fight baldomir what is your opinion on that?


Mayweather can not fight everybody in boxing..
others fighters have to put in work also, just like mayweather did

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

not a horrible post, lefty. If you can admit these three things, you will be well on the road to recovery:

1. Pac has a better record than Mayweather
2. Mayweather was/is ducking Cotto
3. Mayweather has 1 loss(castillo).

1)Floyd is 39-0 what is better then that? I will give you that PACMAn has provided us with more excitment and fought very good opposition.

2)I already answered this in my prior posts. You can make a case for lots of fighters ducking but Money played a big part in this.

3) I have never saw the Castillo fight start to finish so i am not in a position to pass judgement on this one sir

I will say this you can make a case that Oscar beat Floyd but if you watch back the fight you will see that Floyd won....Lefty