Since the Pac fight this forum has reached all new incredible lows...

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I've been reading this thread. You haven't listed anything. Don't try to sneak some names in now, if you could list 20 you would. Go for it. We can break it down after.

Chavez could be placed above Pernell as well...Harry Greb...

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Chavez could be placed above Pernell as well...Harry Greb...

Why don't you just name 20? How old are you?

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Why don't you just name 20? How old are you?

Jimmy McLarnin...Gene Tunney....

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Jimmy McLarnin...Gene Tunney....

Obviously you can't name 20. So I'm gonna go with what you have.

Let's see:

McLarning
Tunney
Greb
Chavez Sr.
Holyfield
Hagler
Frazier (maybe)

That's...six? Seven? Let's start with McLarning. What makes his resume better than Pea's? What fights impressed you?

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Wins over Barney Ross(lost 2 of em), Lou Ambers, Harry Greb...Benny Leonard to name a few

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I’ll take a shot at 20 fighters better than Sweat Pea (who I love by the way). I would also say that Whitaker was the best defensive fighter in my lifetime. As far as 20 fighters here goes (in no particular order)

Joe Gans
Sam Langford
Benny Leonard
Harry Greb
Henry Armstrong
Willy Pep
Aaron Pryor
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Julio Cesar Chavez
Alexis Arguello
SRR
Roberto Duran
Stanley Ketchel
**** Tiger
Carlos Monzon
Marvin Hagler
Roy Jones
Bernard Hopkins
Gene Tunney
Joe Louis

I tried to keep all the names in the lower divisions, and obviously I’m taking the opinions of earler writers by including early fighters such as Joe Gans and Harry Greb.

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I’ll take a shot at 20 fighters better than Sweat Pea (who I love by the way). I would also say that Whitaker was the best defensive fighter in my lifetime. As far as 20 fighters here goes (in no particular order)

Joe Gans
Sam Langford
Benny Leonard
Harry Greb
Henry Armstrong
Willy Pep
Aaron Pryor
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Julio Cesar Chavez
Alexis Arguello
SRR
Roberto Duran
Stanley Ketchel
**** Tiger
Carlos Monzon
Marvin Hagler
Roy Jones
Bernard Hopkins
Gene Tunney
Joe Louis

I tried to keep all the names in the lower divisions, and obviously I’m taking the opinions of earler writers by including early fighters such as Joe Gans and Harry Greb.

I wouldn't put them ahead of Pernell but every1 has their opinion...

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Wins over Barney Ross(lost 2 of em), Lou Ambers, Harry Greb...Benny Leonard to name a few

What fights did you see?

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What fights did you see?

I've seen clips of the first fight with Ross. How many did you see?

[bklynboy]

I wrote the list as part of a challange to come up with 20 names that were better than Sweat Pea. I don't know if Pryor was better but I thought he was good enough to be included. If I had more time and looked at a bunch of ATG lists he might not be listed. It’s hard to find 20 people who were better than Whitaker. Whitaker was a great defensive fighter and anytime fight fans talk about one man being able to stand in front of another and not get hit Whitaker deserves to be mentioned.