Pac VS JMM 2, Your honest unbiased opinion who do you think really won.

[Me La Pelan]

Ya, but even though so called professional judges aren't really professional. Lewis vs Evander comes to mind when I think about judges. I guess its hard for them to judge a fight live do to the angle they are watching the fight ringside. Atleast we can see the entire fight while the judges only have one perspective.

Yes they do have a limited view, but if you have ever been to a Pac fight you could see how the judges could be persuaded by all the Pac fans oohhing and awwwing at every punch Manny throws (litteraly). I've been to 3 Pac fights and his fans OVER EXAGERATE any landed punch!!! So MAYBE sometimes judges are misled into thinking that some punches were landed solid.

[One - Shot]

its coo, its just your opinion. The fight was a very close fight no one is right or wrong.

PAC won the fight

[savorduhflavor]

If its pretty fresh in your memory, can you tell me which round you gave to pac and which round you gave to Marquez? I'm curious to see what round you gave Marquez. Either way there is no wrong answer.

Luckily I have my scorecard for this fight recorded.

Round 1: Pac
Round 2: JMM
Round 3: Pac(10-8)
Round 4: Pac
Round 5: JMM
Round 6: JMM
Round 7: JMM
Round 8: JMM
Round 9: Pac
Round 10: Pac
Round 11: JMM
Round 12: JMM

JMM 114-113.

It was close no doubt, I just thought the rounds were pretty clear for the most part.

[loui_ludwig]

As far as Pac's reaction to the announcement of the winner. He probably thought that by hearing the 2 judges scorecards, it was another draw. He was probably thinking "oh ****, not again". As far as JMM, he has always had a serious face.

[HendrixLove]

Yes they do have a limited view, but if you have ever been to a Pac fight you could see how the judges could be persuaded by all the Pac fans oohhing and awwwing at every punch Manny throws (litteraly). I've been to 3 Pac fights and his fans OVER EXAGERATE any landed punch!!! So MAYBE sometimes judges are misled into thinking that some punches were landed solid.

It's like the first round of the 2nd fight, when Pac looked to have landed a flurry to steal the round, when in reality Pac barely hit Juans forehead and did not snap his head back, yet the whole crowd was going crazy. I don't care what anyone says, round 1 was won by Marquez.

[Reggie Miller]

Pac (IMO)
but it should've been a Majority Decision, that's how close it was.

[re-run]

I think that a lot of people see Marquez winning this fight because Pacquiao was not fighting his fight (that does not mean Pacquiao lost).

Fight #1

I really find that as much as people say that the three ko's in the first round is the only reason that Pacquiao was in the fight, I see it as something that hurt him when it came to judging the rest of the fight. Because of the standard that Pacquiao set from the first round, anything short of a ko was Pacquiao losing exchanges and even rounds. I'm not saying that Pacquiao was clearly dominating the other rounds but when he was dominating the rounds it was not as dominant as the first round which set the tone.

Fight #2

There were rounds where Pacquiao was not attacking like he usually does and I really think this is why a lot of writers score it against Pacquiao. Because of the cut he was hesitant to attack, but when he did swing at Marquez he DID hit him. It was not in the dominant fashion that people are so accustomed to seeing and I really feel that hurt him on the cards. Because he was not as aggressive people were seeing him as losing the fight.

I really find that whatever shots that Pacquiao hit and stunned Marquez with was very over-looked as a result of everyone expecting a knock-out.

[Me La Pelan]

I had it 114-113 JMM. Clearly for me.

[HendrixLove]

It makes me sick to hear people bring up the knockdown as the deciding factor in the fight. The judging was so ****ed up towards Marquez that even if he wasn't knocked down, he still wouldn't have won the fight, at best he would have gotten a draw, so there was no way in hell Marquez was going to win that fight in the first place, two judges clinched the fight for Pacquiao.

[NoFear24]

Yes they do have a limited view, but if you have ever been to a Pac fight you could see how the judges could be persuaded by all the Pac fans oohhing and awwwing at every punch Manny throws (litteraly). I've been to 3 Pac fights and his fans OVER EXAGERATE any landed punch!!! So MAYBE sometimes judges are misled into thinking that some punches were landed solid.

LMAO I had to laugh at this because during the Pac vs Hatton fight, I went to this Filipino Dining place and the place was Packed and every punch Pac Man threw even though he missed a couple they would get so excited and OOOOHHH and AHHHHH at everything. It was fun times at Saturday though, because Hatton eventually got knocked out. Scary though because Hatton looked like he was about to die. I don't think your supposed to turn the guy side ways when there knocked out like that.

Back to topic. That's why I watch the fight again at home to judge the fight accordingly after without all the crazy fans.