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  • Butterball
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    #1

    If Gayleather vs. Ping Ping took place?

    I bet there's already been about 10,000 threads on this, but what if?

    Obviously the fact that Ping Ping beat two Floyd opponents far easier than Floyd did means that he would win, because triangular logic is everything in boxing.

    But if this wasn't the case, then I'd go with Gayleather. Though Ping Ping has done enough lately to make it a question worth asking.
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    #2
    I agree, it is all about the triangular theory!

    Styles don't make fights they create fashion statements.

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      • Technical_Skill
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        #4
        Originally posted by Butterball
        I bet there's already been about 10,000 threads on this, but what if?

        Obviously the fact that Ping Ping beat two Floyd opponents far easier than Floyd did means that he would win, because triangular logic is everything in boxing.

        But if this wasn't the case, then I'd go with Gayleather. Though Ping Ping has done enough lately to make it a question worth asking.
        The hype on this ****hole of a forum is getting incredible, once a fighter wins certain posters seem to lose all perspective. Allow me to say the following.

        Technically there are several reasons to suggest Floyd Mayweather Jr, provided he is still prime and beats Marquez, actually has a serious chance of hurting Manny Pacquiao should they fight.

        1) People are getting carried away with the manner of the way Hatton was destroyed, I picked him to get knocked out, but like many, went for the later rounds. However whilst pacquiao's timing was outstanding, hatton was actually the cause of his own downfall because he didn't listen to the gameplan. A plan which I will go into next point. Simply rushing in head first with no head movement was always going to result in a knockout win Pacquaio because thats all they had prepared for in the months up to the fight. Trust me, if hatton had done something different, roach was still ******** on hatton getting hit, losing the gameplan and reverting back to type.

        2) To beat Manny Pacquaio you need two things. Correct footwork and timing. Mayweather Sr apparently told hatton to move to his left and jab before the fight. The very same thing I was saying the moment the fight was made, now Mayweather Sr (if this is true) has shown that he can see pacquaio's key weakness, but hatton didnt have the mentality and skills to apply it. Example, hatton is not a counterpuncher, so mayweather sr would have wanted to him to move to his left and smother, rather than drawn him in and counterpunch. But it proves one thing, he's obviously studied manny and can see the way, I dont believe Roger mayweather has missed this either. If you had to pick one fighter on earth to able to execute that fightplan, you'd most likely pick mayweather.

        3) In my opinion Manny pacquiao isnt the same fighter when your circle to your left and away from his left hand. Now the fact hatton came onto him head first allowed manny to open up with the hook, but what if someone doesnt rush him? What if they create distance and move to the left. Well Marquez did this and Pacquiao ended up lunging in and getting countered. If floyd mayweather moves to his left and gives himself distance, what is manny pacquiao going to do? because when it come to lateral movement I dont believe he can match mayweather.

        4) This was a fantastic point made on a youtube video, which I can send to you, great points, I wont post it here incase the noobs get a hold of it. This is what the guy basically said "What is the one key punch against a southpaw?

        The right hand".

        "Now Oscar de la hoya is a southpaw coverted to orthodox I believe, so his right hand is not his power hand". Very good point. Ricky Hatton doesnt have the speed and skills to land a powerful lead right hand on pacquaio from distance.

        But who has one of the best lead rights of the last decade, Mayweather Jr. One more thing, Mayweather's right hand is about TIMING, which means stepping to the left to line it up waiting for the guy to open up and then he throws it. Timing beats speed, mayweather's timing is unreal.

        5) If Mayweather can avoid the left hand lead. Unless mayweather is up close and coming onto pacquiao, would you think pacquaio will be able to land a lead right hook, clean on the chin, then put his head down incase a punch is thrown back, without getting hit back by floyd mayweather? Im not so sure. If he can't, what does pacquiao do next?

        Not saying Pacquaio has no chance, not saying that at all, its just about having some perspective.
        Last edited by Technical_Skill; 05-04-2009, 07:49 AM.

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          so fcuking raict its sick

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            #6
            Originally posted by Technical_Skill
            The hype on this ****hole of a forum is getting incredible, once a fighter wins certain posters seem to lose all perspective. Allow me to say the following.

            Technically there are several reasons to suggest Floyd Mayweather Jr, provided he is still prime and beats Marquez, actually has a serious chance of hurting Manny Pacquiao should they fight.

            1) People are getting carried away with the manner of the way Hatton was destroyed, I picked him to get knocked out, but like many, went for the later rounds. However whilst pacquiao's timing was outstanding, hatton was actually the cause of his own downfall because he didn't listen to the gameplan. A plan which I will go into next point. Simply rushing in head first with no head movement was always going to result in a knockout win Pacquaio because thats all they had prepared for in the months up to the fight. Trust me, if hatton had done something different, roach was still ******** on hatton getting hit, losing the gameplan and reverting back to type.

            2) To beat Manny Pacquaio you need two things. Correct footwork and timing. Mayweather Sr apparently told hatton to move to his left and jab before the fight. The very same thing I was saying the moment the fight was made, now Mayweather Sr (if this is true) has shown that he can see pacquaio's key weakness, but hatton didnt have the mentality and skills to apply it. Example, hatton is not a counterpuncher, so mayweather sr would have wanted to him to move to his left and smother, rather than drawn him in and counterpunch. But it proves one thing, he's obviously studied manny and can see the way, I dont believe Roger mayweather has missed this either. If you had to pick one fighter on earth to able to execute that fightplan, you'd most likely pick mayweather.

            3) In my opinion Manny pacquiao isnt the same fighter when your circle to your left and away from his left hand. Now the fact hatton came onto him head first allowed manny to open up with the hook, but what if someone doesnt rush him? What if they create distance and move to the left. Well Marquez did this and Pacquiao ended up lunging in and getting countered. If floyd mayweather moves to his left and gives himself distance, what is manny pacquiao going to do? because when it come to lateral movement I dont believe he can match mayweather.

            4) This was a fantastic point made on a youtube video, which I can send to you, great points, I wont post it here incase the noobs get a hold of it. This is what the guy basically said "What is the one key punch against a southpaw?

            The right hand".

            "Now Oscar de la hoya is a southpaw coverted to orthodox I believe, so his right hand is not his power hand". Very good point. Ricky Hatton doesnt have the speed and skills to land a powerful lead right hand on pacquaio from distance.

            But who has one of the best lead rights of the last decade, Mayweather Jr. One more thing, Mayweather's right hand is about TIMING, which means stepping to the left to line it up waiting for the guy to open up and then he throws it. Timing beats speed, mayweather's timing is unreal.

            5) If Mayweather can avoid the left hand lead. Unless mayweather is up close and coming onto pacquiao, would you think pacquaio will be able to land a lead right hook, clean on the chin, then put his head down incase a punch is thrown back, without getting hit back by floyd mayweather? Im not so sure. If he can't, what does pacquiao do next?

            Not saying Pacquaio has no chance, not saying that at all, its just about having some perspective.
            TS, when I said that Pac would win because he beat Hatton and Oscar quicker and that's proof of his greatness over Floyd.. you got that I was being SATIRICAL, right?

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            • Technical_Skill
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              #7
              Originally posted by Butterball
              TS, when I said that Pac would win because he beat Hatton and Oscar quicker and that's proof of his greatness over Floyd.. you got that I was being SATIRICAL, right?
              Of course mate, Im talking about other posters losing perspective. The threads on nsb with people legitmatley telling me pac will win because he ko'd hatton in 2 and mayweather In 10 is incredible.

              So I posted a proper response in here, away from the noobs.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                Of course mate, Im talking about other posters losing perspective. The threads on nsb with people legitmatley telling me pac will win because he ko'd hatton in 2 and mayweather In 10 is incredible.

                So I posted a proper response in here, away from the noobs.
                They have a legitimate point.

                Pavlik beat Taylor by KO who beat Hopkins twice.

                Guess what Kelly did to Bernard?

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by DeafCon
                  They have a legitimate point.

                  Pavlik beat Taylor by KO who beat Hopkins twice.

                  Guess what Kelly did to Bernard?
                  You seem to be making his point for him... triangular logic means nothing.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Butterball
                    You seem to be making his point for him... triangular logic means nothing.
                    You don't know what sarcasm is?????? Its OK Annie your age is catching up to you.....

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