James Toney was a beast in his prime idk what ya'll talkin about. And I don't even have to speak for Bernard...
Funny, because before the Pavlik fight, Hopkins wasn't considered SO GREAT. After a unspectacular win (impressive, but unspectacular) suddenly you got these nutlickers like yourself talking like he's ATG top 10. ***ing joke...
I strongly disagree. Pac gets too much credit for 2 high quality wins. He edged Marquez, beat a weight drained DLH, a decent fighter in Hatton. Roy knocked out and made a fool out of just about every1 he fought during his reign.
Roy was so impressive because he fought so many B and C level fighters. That's like Pacquiao fighting David Diaz level fighters. Guess what earlier in this career Pac KTFO all his easier competition too. You just didn't see it because he was doing it overseas.
BTW boxing resume aren't judged by how you come up the ladder. Its judged by what you do when you're up there. And Roy fell off the ladder while Pac kept climbing.
Just for samples who here would you put Pac ahead of?
20. George Foreman
21. Tony Canzoneri
22. Barney Ross
23. Jimmy McLarnin
24. Julio Cesar Chavez
25. Marcel Cerdan
26. Joe Frazier
27. Ezzard Charles
28. Jake LaMotta
29. Sandy Saddler
30. Terry McGovern
Maybe Chavez with his padded record...some don't like ESPN's list but I don't see how Manny hits the top 30. Pacquiao deserves love but he's gettin too much rite now.
Things should cool down in a day or two...
Why is Jake Lamotta better? Because he went 1-5 against Ray Robinson? And when he won, he weighed in as a Middleweight, while Sugar was a Welterweight.
Fraizer won the biggest fight of all time. I give him loads of credit for that, but again one big win in a glorified era shouldn't be enough to make him so much better than everyone else.
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