This loss is not Floyd Sr.'s fault

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  • Benny Leonard
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    #11
    Freddie was right though: It didn't matter if Sr. was there because Ricky would be the same old Ricky come fight-time.

    You can have the greatest trainer in the world but if you don't listen and you can't adjust and prove that old dogs can't learn new tricks...your ass will get owned.


    What is incredible is that Pac seems to continue to improve both Physically and Technically. He's jumped up in weight and seems to only get bigger, stronger, and kept his speed (if not a bit faster)...
    He does seem a lot smarter as a fighter as well.
    Maybe it's just styles and who he is fighting, but......still impressive.

    It will be good to see how he does against a counter-puncher type like Floyd, JMM type fighters. But let's just wait to see who wins that fight since that will be interesting. JMM seems to think Floyd might not be the same fighter because of inactivity. We'll see.

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    • Silencers
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      #12
      Originally posted by Haglerwins
      The gameplan was not wrong. Hatton took all of his wallops because he didn't move his head and get into position smart. He only looked good when he set up attacks with this imo. Sr. told the truth, but he is a prick.
      It was all wrong. His gameplan seemed to be to try to stay patient behind the jab at a distance and close the distance behind the jab, we didn't see too much head movement from Hatton to get on the inside and Pacquiao ate him up on the outside, which is what I expected to happen. Hatton had to use the jab and bob and weave to get inside and bully Pacquiao around. He didn't do that, he just stood there firing his jab. The gameplan was wrong.

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      • Haglerwins
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        #13
        Originally posted by Silencers
        It was all wrong. His gameplan seemed to be to try to stay patient behind the jab at a distance and close the distance behind the jab, we didn't see too much head movement from Hatton to get on the inside and Pacquiao ate him up on the outside, which is what I expected to happen. Hatton had to use the jab and bob and weave to get inside and bully Pacquiao around. He didn't do that, he just stood there firing his jab. The gameplan was wrong.
        How can the gameplan be wrong, when the bolded WAS the gameplan? At no point did Sr. indicate this was not what they were trying to establish. Hatton doesn't listen, the first thing Sr. told him after the 1st was to move his damn head. And Hatton did move his head a bit, his style of it is just terrible and probably looked like nothing to you when he did try it. He sways it a little bit and slips in, it only managed to bind him clinches, but even that achievement was infintely better than going at Manny standing up straight with his hands away from his face and being hammered.

        Ricky probably would've got knocked out anyway, but at least take the advice that will get you from being put out cold.

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