Ricky Hatton Tactics

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Great posts so far people, particularly from Hurricane.

Let me just say this, im not a big believer in Hatton being able to come at Straight lines at pac for the following reasons.

1) That exactly what Roach is expecting Hatton to do and is preparing some "basic moves" to combat this. Apparently pac has been seen in training practicing left hooks from the orthodox stance and I personally believe roach will work on Pac's footwork in terms of making sure he can't be found after he hits hatton. Probably something like getting and out, or perhaps even using combinations but stepping off to the side. Whatever happens, I believe if hatton employs this tactics it playing into pac's hands because I belive he has been trained to cope with this for months

2) Im not talking about Circling pac around the outside and staying there, im talking about, circling away from the left then closing pac down from the angle. If he's moving to the side then closing in, less chance he's gonna get caught square on imo, because he's coming in from an angle.

3) Coming in straight lines and keeping his guard up will most likely not work in this fight, because when he gets hit and hit hard, he'll simply revert back to the hatton of old, drop his hands, thow wild shots and continue to steam in, this is another thing roach is ******** on. Even if hatton does have a good plan, roach thinks hatton will throw it out the window if he gets hit hard.

if hatton circles to his left and pac circles to his right, there will be a clash of heads guaranteed.

also if hatton spends more time moving laterally then he's not spending time getting inside and wrestling which will be his best tactic.

lets be serious, if floyd couldn't move laterally on hatton, neither can pac. hatton's got good foot speed to get in range and clinch. he just needs to avoid getting hit coming in.

[DiegoFuego]

The Malignaggi fight was the first time I saw Hatton win a fight without holding and hitting the entire fight

[Dynamite Kid]

So to confirm, Tonight I believe Hatton needs to use the following tactics to win.

1)Circle away from the left hand:The most obvious one that I have been saying since the fight was made. If there is one thing he needs to do it's this, otherwise, he's not going the 12 rounds.

2) Step off to side then set up off the jab: I still believe Pac doesn't like throw as much when the left isnt in line with the opponent, as you circle away from his left, pump the jab, follow up with the right hand.

3) Use the Side door:This one is tricky, i'm aware this might not be foolproof but here goes. Manny has spent months training for Ricky to rush in and square up. Use a different game plan, come in from the side. Circle the left, jab, so he's at at an angle to pac rather than being square on. Then close distance from that angle by using the lead right and possibly even set up the left hook to body. Not a foolproof plan because once he's at an angle, the jab might not be effective, but he can use it as he starts to step to the side then use the right hand lead to actually get inside. This isn't about being flashy on the outside, It's about getting on the inside without taking punishment.

4) When you get inside, Foul Foul Foul, and look for the left hook.

As the above makes it clear, if and when hatton gets inside, he needs to make the most of whatever time the ref allows him to have there, he also needs to get there without taking head punishment. If this happens, he stands a good chance of a stoppage win.

Pretty good analogy TS.

He needs to stay off the line period. Have you noticed how Hatton has a tendency to start the fight using good head movement to create angles to punch off etc, but then once he gets in a rhythm he abandons it and starts using less shoulder feints,head movement and he starts coming in on the line.

[Technical_Skill]

if hatton circles to his left and pac circles to his right, there will be a clash of heads guaranteed.

also if hatton spends more time moving laterally then he's not spending time getting inside and wrestling which will be his best tactic.

lets be serious, if floyd couldn't move laterally on hatton, neither can pac. hatton's got good foot speed to get in range and clinch. he just needs to avoid getting hit coming in.

Floyd was able to move laterally against hatton, also he was using different tactics, he was allowing hatton to come on him, trying hit him off the back foot then try and step off to the side.

But yeah Hatton has very good footspeed and that will play a key factor in the fight, I still reckon if he come up to pac square on, he will get hit before he knows what time it is. But we shall see in a few hours.

The last guy to really trouble Pac was marquez, when he stood infront, he got knocked down, till he worked out if he circled away from the left, pac wasnt as ferocious, his output wasn't as good and Marquez was able to get into a rhythm.

Pac is more two handed than he was then though.

Its what makes this a great fight, but i'll be very suprised if roach hasnt prepared pacquiao for hatton bullrushing him asap.

The first few rounds a critical as this is where I think Pac is most likely to take punishment.

[S A M U R A I]

So to confirm, Tonight I believe Hatton needs to use the following tactics to win.

1)Circle away from the left hand:The most obvious one that I have been saying since the fight was made. If there is one thing he needs to do it's this, otherwise, he's not going the 12 rounds.

2) Step off to side then set up off the jab: I still believe Pac doesn't like throw as much when the left isnt in line with the opponent, as you circle away from his left, pump the jab, follow up with the right hand.

3) Use the Side door:This one is tricky, i'm aware this might not be foolproof but here goes. Manny has spent months training for Ricky to rush in and square up. Use a different game plan, come in from the side. Circle the left, jab, so he's at at an angle to pac rather than being square on. Then close distance from that angle by using the lead right and possibly even set up the left hook to body. Not a foolproof plan because once he's at an angle, the jab might not be effective, but he can use it as he starts to step to the side then use the right hand lead to actually get inside. This isn't about being flashy on the outside, It's about getting on the inside without taking punishment.

4) When you get inside, Foul Foul Foul, and look for the left hook.

As the above makes it clear, if and when hatton gets inside, he needs to make the most of whatever time the ref allows him to have there, he also needs to get there without taking head punishment. If this happens, he stands a good chance of a stoppage win.

Circling away from the left will bring Hatton onto Pacquiao's right hand, which is not to be underestimated. Manny did great work with the right in his last few fights, it wasn't all about the left hand. The way Diaz was set up was with a right hand, then a left, then he hit the deck.



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Floyd was able to move laterally against hatton, also he was using different tactics, he was allowing hatton to come on him, trying hit him off the back foot then try and step off to the side.

yeah, floyd tried to move laterally, but he gave that up pretty early in the fight because he knew that was just gonna waste his energy. instead, floyd just waited to potshot or duck under hatton's punches then use his own strength to neutralize hatton's strength, and use his own dirty tactics to offset hatton's dirty tactics. floyd gave hatton subtle angles, but he wasn't moving laterally.

But yeah Hatton has very good footspeed and that will play a key factor in the fight, I still reckon if he come up to pac square on, he will get hit before he knows what time it is. But we shall see in a few hours.

he can come square on, he's just got to throw the jab and move his head while coming in.

The last guy to really trouble Pac was marquez, when he stood infront, he got knocked down, till he worked out if he circled away from the left, pac wasnt as ferocious, his output wasn't as good and Marquez was able to get into a rhythm.

no, jmm was in front of pac the whole night. he wasn't circling or nothing. jmm just waited for pac to dart in and catch pac coming in or counterpunch. jmm got put on his ass in the 2nd fight because he got over-aggressive.

Pac is more two handed than he was then though.

Its what makes this a great fight, but i'll be very suprised if roach hasnt prepared pacquiao for hatton bullrushing him asap.

it's not the bullrushing that is the problem... the problem is the rough-housing and wrestling that hatton does. pac doesn't like to fight dirty and is totally at the mercy of the ref to end the clinches.

The first few rounds a critical as this is where I think Pac is most likely to take punishment.

depends on how hatton comes out.. if hatton tries to implement what floyd taught him, then pac might not take much punishment at all.

[Technical_Skill]

Circling away from the left will bring Hatton onto Pacquiao's right hand, which is not to be underestimated. Manny did great work with the right in his last few fights, it wasn't all about the left hand. The way Diaz was set up was with a right hand, then a left, then he hit the deck.

Agreed, better Hatton takes the right hand than the left tho, the left is still Pac's main weapon imo.

[Kobe Bryant]

Don't forget head movement. Sometimes Ricky is an easy target up stairs for the jab.

[Technical_Skill]

yeah, floyd tried to move laterally, but he gave that up pretty early in the fight because he knew that was just gonna waste his energy. instead, floyd just waited to potshot or duck under hatton's punches then use his own strength to neutralize hatton's strength, and use his own dirty tactics to offset hatton's dirty tactics. floyd gave hatton subtle angles, but he wasn't moving laterally.

he can come square on, he's just got to throw the jab and move his head while coming in.


no, jmm was in front of pac the whole night. he wasn't circling or nothing. jmm just waited for pac to dart in and catch pac coming in or counterpunch. jmm got put on his ass in the 2nd fight because he got over-aggressive.


it's not the bullrushing that is the problem... the problem is the rough-housing and wrestling that hatton does. pac doesn't like to fight dirty and is totally at the mercy of the ref to end the clinches.


depends on how hatton comes out.. if hatton tries to implement what floyd taught him, then pac might not take much punishment at all.

In Marquez vs Pac 1 in particular, I think its Foreman who notes that Pac's isnt the same fighter once marquez moved away from the left.

Check out 5:40 Foreman picks up on it and watch Marquez, How many times does he move to his right? He's circling to his left constantly and pac isn't throwing as much. That's the key right there.



Ps. Bullrishing is the problem imo, because Manny's speed will likely get to him before the other stuff matters.

[-CANE-]

Great posts so far people, particularly from Hurricane.

Let me just say this, im not a big believer in Hatton being able to come at Straight lines at pac for the following reasons.

1) That exactly what Roach is expecting Hatton to do and is preparing some "basic moves" to combat this. Apparently pac has been seen in training practicing left hooks from the orthodox stance and I personally believe roach will work on Pac's footwork in terms of making sure he can't be found after he hits hatton. Probably something like getting and out, or perhaps even using combinations but stepping off to the side. Whatever happens, I believe if hatton employs this tactics it playing into pac's hands because I belive he has been trained to cope with this for months

2) Im not talking about Circling pac around the outside and staying there, im talking about, circling away from the left then closing pac down from the angle. If he's moving to the side then closing in, less chance he's gonna get caught square on imo, because he's coming in from an angle.

3) Coming in straight lines and keeping his guard up will most likely not work in this fight, because when he gets hit and hit hard, he'll simply revert back to the hatton of old, drop his hands, thow wild shots and continue to steam in, this is another thing roach is ******** on. Even if hatton does have a good plan, roach thinks hatton will throw it out the window if he gets hit hard.

Thanks Tech. Like I said it's a difficult one but I think boxing will be the winner whatever the outcome.

P.S Don't want to hijack the thread but seeing your username reminded me of our little disagreements in the past on F1. PM me your thoughts on Button and the season so far.