Pacman is done...He cant fight going backwards Sr. nailed it.

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    #41
    Originally posted by strugler
    Besides the southpaw stance........i dont think they fight the same?....yes Pac will be force to back down on occasion.i doubt ricky avoiding all the punches when he rushes in though...and hattons chin aint really on JCC/Margarito/penalosa level............got a question though...if ricky starts to backdown, do you think its the begginning of the end for the hitman?
    Yea, I admit they don't fight alike besides the southpaw stance. But the point was, Ricky never backed down against the much bigger man and was very limited defence wise in that fight. Ricky just doesn't back down and will not in this fight against the smaller guy. Sure he will get hit on the way in, but when doesn't he? Also, I think he will be improved defensively - maybe not vastly, but there will be some improvement there after another 12 weeks with Floyd Snr.

    I do agree though, the moment Ricky starts to back down and fight on the outside, its pretty much over for Ricky.

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      #42
      Originally posted by jching
      Been saying this the whole time about this fight. Manny has ONLY EVER fought fighters of the same style, fighters who allow him time and space to utilise his skills and style.

      Manny is NOT good at fighting on the back foot, FACT. He can skip around sideways, but what good is that gonna be when Hatton continuely tracks him down and cuts the ring off?

      How is Manny gonna get into his in/out rhythm if Hatton is constantly moving forward, whilst throwing bombs? It's not gonna happen. He has to fight on the backfoot in this fight.

      People saying that Ricky will be on the backfoot, obviously don't know much about Ricky. He respects NOONE'S power. He knows only one way and that's forward. Name me one fight where Ricky has fought on the backfoot, even against the bigger guys - guys alot bigger than Manny - he took shots flush and just kept on coming.

      Great ****ing post...Ive never seen Hatton take a backwards step....

      He comes foward...period.

      Manny will have to fight going backwards..and from what I ear about him koing partners...roach is not getting this kid the right kind of work.

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        #43
        Originally posted by strugler
        who did hatton fight with the strenght/power of pac?plus the speed and southpaw stance?
        Luis Collazo..and that was 147 ponds.

        Hatton bull rushed his azz....and NEVER took a step backwards.

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          #44
          Originally posted by jching
          Yea, I admit they don't fight alike besides the southpaw stance. But the point was, Ricky never backed down against the much bigger man and was very limited defence wise in that fight. Ricky just doesn't back down and will not in this fight against the smaller guy. Sure he will get hit on the way in, but when doesn't he? Also, I think he will be improved defensively - maybe not vastly, but there will be some improvement there after another 12 weeks with Floyd Snr.

          I do agree though, the moment Ricky starts to back down and fight on the outside, its pretty much over for Ricky.


          fair enough after 3 rounds we will see who dictates the match...........i can see PAC adjusting....i just dont see Hatton having a plan b.......close and tough fight for both though...................

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            #45
            Originally posted by r ! z
            sounds like mayweather fans HOPING this fight atleast lasts the distance. God forbid Pacquiao puts Hatton away faster than God (aka Mayweather Jr.)
            Who cares who kos who faster???

            Cotto ko'd sosa...corley and judah all quicker then Mayweather.

            Ummm whos the better fighter Cotto or Mayweather?

            Get it now.

            Go run along and play..were in here breaking down the fight if you dont have anything to ad get the ***lk out my thread or be placed on ignore.

            Thanks kid.

            Anyway where was I.....

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              #46
              Originally posted by The Don.
              Luis Collazo..and that was 147 ponds.

              Hatton bull rushed his azz....and NEVER took a step backwards.
              the speed?......................the output?................naaaaaaah i dont think so...........you keep on repeating the weight/147..dont you thinbk that help hattons chin?....................and my other question if PAC kos hatton faster than PBF.does pac have more power than pbf?

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                #47
                Originally posted by strugler
                Besides the southpaw stance........i dont think they fight the same?....yes Pac will be force to back down on occasion.i doubt ricky avoiding all the punches when he rushes in though...and hattons chin aint really on JCC/Margarito/penalosa level............got a question though...if ricky starts to backdown, do you think its the begginning of the end for the hitman?
                Yes...

                That means Pacs power is getting to him........

                But I dont see it happening...but if Pac is stalking Hatton..the fight is over for Ricky.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by strugler
                  the speed?......................the output?................naaaaaaah i dont think so...........you keep on repeating the weight/147..dont you thinbk that help hattons chin?....................and my other question if PAC kos hatton faster than PBF.does pac have more power than pbf?
                  Thats a tough question to answer......

                  But when we seen Floyd at 140 pounds....he hit hard...he was knocking people the **** out.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by strugler
                    fair enough after 3 rounds we will see who dictates the match...........i can see PAC adjusting....i just dont see Hatton having a plan b.......close and tough fight for both though...................
                    Yea, we're only gonna know for sure on the night - anything can happen in boxing. Main points for me though, regarding Manny:

                    -Can he withstand Ricky's power shots, especially to the body?

                    -Can he fight effectively on the inside and going backwards?

                    -Can he actually hurt Ricky when Ricky's coming in?

                    If the answer to these is yes, then Manny has a great chance to win. IMO though, at Ricky's best weight class and with Ricky being more improved defensively and technically than ever before, the chances aren't great for Pac.

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                      #50
                      Whatever, it's clear you have made up your mind and won't listen to anyone elses opinion. We'll just see what happens on Saturday.

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