By Cliff Rold - Follow the sweet science long enough and even a passing fan will hear, with sounds of awe, about an ‘original eight,’ about a bygone era when the sport’s weight classes were limited to just that number with (usually) just that many World champions. [details]
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The Top 20 Junior Flyweights of All-Time
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? Bul **** list. Where is Ivan ****ing Calderon????
Carvajal and Gonzales should be 1 and 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Eh, these guys do have a point... if Ricardo Lopez made it on the list for having 3 fights at the weight, I think Calderon should be on there, considering he has two wins over a guy who is ranked somewhere close to #10 on the ATG 108 lb list.
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Originally posted by Silencers View PostI have Carbajal as number 1, Zapata was a great fighter, no doubt about it though.
Apparently it's the correct thing to do, since you and the list both have Carbajal quite a bit ahead, but...
Gonzalez won the rematch and the rubber, and to be honest, I felt like he was dominating the first fight (it was competitive, and Gonzalez was taking punishment, but Carbajal was taking truckloads more if my memory serves me correctly) until he got caught with one of the hardest punches I've ever seen.
So enlighten me, please.
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Originally posted by DWiens421 View PostWhy would someone have Gonzalez over Carbajal?
Apparently it's the correct thing to do, since you and the list both have Carbajal quite a bit ahead, but...
Gonzalez won the rematch and the rubber, and to be honest, I felt like he was dominating the first fight (it was competitive, and Gonzalez was taking punishment, but Carbajal was taking truckloads more if my memory serves me correctly) until he got caught with one of the hardest punches I've ever seen.
So enlighten me, please.
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Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post? Bul **** list. Where is Ivan ****ing Calderon????
How and where to include active guys has been a tough choice from list to list. In this case, with very real possibilities for fights amongst some top guys, I think this current class deserves more time to work it out. Cazares is at 115 now so he can crack in. Calderon would have been above him and likely will finish higher should he keep winning. You'll get plenty of Ivan in the next/last list.
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Originally posted by crold1 View PostYou missed the part which read: "Fighters currently active in the division were not considered."
How and where to include active guys has been a tough choice from list to list. In this case, with very real possibilities for fights amongst some top guys, I think this current class deserves more time to work it out. Cazares is at 115 now so he can crack in. Calderon would have been above him and likely will finish higher should he keep winning. You'll get plenty of Ivan in the next/last list.
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