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  • The Top 20 Junior Flyweights of All-Time

    By Cliff Rold - Follow the sweet science long enough and even a passing fan will hear, with sounds of awe, about an ‘original eight,’ about a bygone era when the sport’s weight classes were limited to just that number with (usually) just that many World champions. [details]

  • #2
    ? Bul **** list. Where is Ivan ****ing Calderon????

    Carvajal and Gonzales should be 1 and 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    • #3
      um wheres calderon?

      terrible list

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      • #4
        I have Carbajal as number 1, Zapata was a great fighter, no doubt about it though.

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        • #5
          Eh, these guys do have a point... if Ricardo Lopez made it on the list for having 3 fights at the weight, I think Calderon should be on there, considering he has two wins over a guy who is ranked somewhere close to #10 on the ATG 108 lb list.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Silencers View Post
            I have Carbajal as number 1, Zapata was a great fighter, no doubt about it though.
            Why would someone have Gonzalez over Carbajal?

            Apparently it's the correct thing to do, since you and the list both have Carbajal quite a bit ahead, but...

            Gonzalez won the rematch and the rubber, and to be honest, I felt like he was dominating the first fight (it was competitive, and Gonzalez was taking punishment, but Carbajal was taking truckloads more if my memory serves me correctly) until he got caught with one of the hardest punches I've ever seen.

            So enlighten me, please.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DWiens421 View Post
              Why would someone have Gonzalez over Carbajal?

              Apparently it's the correct thing to do, since you and the list both have Carbajal quite a bit ahead, but...

              Gonzalez won the rematch and the rubber, and to be honest, I felt like he was dominating the first fight (it was competitive, and Gonzalez was taking punishment, but Carbajal was taking truckloads more if my memory serves me correctly) until he got caught with one of the hardest punches I've ever seen.

              So enlighten me, please.
              Well, it's pretty much why Zapata is ranked ahead of Chang. Head to head Chang has wins over Zapata but Zapata is ranked ahead because of the depth of his wins at the weight, same thing for Carbajal and Gozalez IMO.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
                ? Bul **** list. Where is Ivan ****ing Calderon????
                You missed the part which read: "Fighters currently active in the division were not considered."

                How and where to include active guys has been a tough choice from list to list. In this case, with very real possibilities for fights amongst some top guys, I think this current class deserves more time to work it out. Cazares is at 115 now so he can crack in. Calderon would have been above him and likely will finish higher should he keep winning. You'll get plenty of Ivan in the next/last list.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by crold1 View Post
                  You missed the part which read: "Fighters currently active in the division were not considered."

                  How and where to include active guys has been a tough choice from list to list. In this case, with very real possibilities for fights amongst some top guys, I think this current class deserves more time to work it out. Cazares is at 115 now so he can crack in. Calderon would have been above him and likely will finish higher should he keep winning. You'll get plenty of Ivan in the next/last list.
                  At least you read`the whole thing before posting your opinion. It is obvious that the iron boy will be there and of course at the minimum weight list where imo Finito Lopez will be #1.

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                  • #10
                    Lopez and Calderon dominated the minimum weights not the Jr. Flyweights.


                    I agree with the list except, I would put Jung Koo Chang over Hilario Zapata in number 1.

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