You're A Fool If You Really Think.......

[Bushbaby]

Yes,this is a legacy booster for floyd,after all the only other big name on his resume,is a old DLH,now the greatest ever,will ad an inflated JMM,to his dashingly superb resume,that is garbage above 135!!!

[Spacey1991]

that a victory over JMM doesnt enhance Floyd's legacy. Sure, some wont give him credit but most of those guys dont like him and are going to discredit him anyways but if you have JMM name on youre resume then thats a good win and history will show it as so. You can say what you want about the size but Floyd will prove in the ring that his skill is better then JMM with or without a size advantage. We always talk about P4P stuff and how a certain guy would do if they fought. Now we are going to see one and if you think that it doesnt enhance his legacy with a win then you are crazy. There will also be a ton of people who will say that JMM, Pac, MAB, and EM only beat up on eachother and never fought any black or dark skin fighters. When they did then they got dominated and Floyd will prove that just as Jones, Raheem, and Norwood have. The list wouldve been alot longer if they had fought the Guzman's, Casamayor's, Chico's, and Campbell's of the world.

History will show this as a win and when people watch the fight and see that the weights arent that far apart then they will definatly credit Floyd. This wont look like Pac vs Oscar in the ring. Floyd will barely look bigger and his skill will seem so much higher then the great JMM. There is always a debate about who is the best pure boxer and so on between JMM & Floyd. Now they will decide it in the ring. Again, size aside Floyd will show that he is the much better boxer

Its considered a tune-up, if Floyd wins its a good win... not a great win...

[warp1432]

Then I come on it and I still didnt read all the responses. I read like the 1st pargraph of what Warp wrote and then I responded to that. My plan was to respond to you personaly and then make another response for the whole board on my thoughts. Thats why I wrote about not knowing who you were and then I made the very next post about the difference between those fights. Whats even more funnier is that after I do this, I see Warp and Weins talking about how weak my 1st response was and how that proves what Warp was saying when I wasnt even going to respond about the boxing part in that post. The next post was going to be about the boxing part but youre so quick to prove your point that you didnt even notice it. Thats so funny.

Then respond to the boxing part. This is a boxing forum, so you might as well make your point. The thing is...your points aren't very good. Your points are:

A. Marquez-Mayweather weigh the same
B. Mayweather's win increases his legacy because he's black???
C. History will tell us that it's fair to these type of situations.

I countered with:

A. It's not the actual how close they are together in weight, but the skill Marquez loses when going up in weight.
B. This doesn't make any sense.
C. I asked for examples and you've given me none.

If Floyd wins my point is that everyone wont put it on weight like you think they will. They will say that he's just a better fighter and a more skilled fighter. They will say that size doesnt matter as much and that those guys may wouldve had more losses if they wouldve fought the black or darker skin guys. I bet Floyd even brings it up when he's hyping the fight

Except no. They'll use the weight excuse and some will be right and some will be wrong.

Some will say that Mayweather had to much of a weight advantage (this will be the wrong argument)

Then the others will say that Marquez didn't even belong that high because he loses skill and speed when moving up in weight (this will be the right argument).

Also bringing the race card into the fight has nothing to do with it.

[El Dominicano]

Then respond to the boxing part. This is a boxing forum, so you might as well make your point. The thing is...your points aren't very good. You're points are:

A. Marquez-Mayweather weigh the same
B. Mayweather's win increases his legacy because he's black???
C. History will tell us that it's fair to these type of situations.

I countered with:

A. It's not the actual how close they are together in weight, but the skill Marquez loses when going up in weight.
B. This doesn't make any sense.
C. I asked for examples and you've given me none.



Except no. They'll use the weight excuse and some will be right and some will be wrong.

Some will say that Mayweather had to much of a weight advantage (this will be the wrong argument)

Then the others will say that Marquez didn't even belong that high because he loses skill and speed when moving up in weight (this will be the right argument).

Also bringing the race card into the fight has nothing to do with it.

Why doesn't JMM come in at 140? Regardless, there was nothing Floyd could have done to have gotten any respect from beating JMM

What could have he done?

[warp1432]

Why doesn't JMM come in at 140? Regardless, there was nothing Floyd could have done to have gotten any respect from beating JMM

What could have he done?

Marquez coming in at 140 would be better for him, but he's still moving up in weight and he's untested there. That adds a little depth for him, but Marquez is still going to be slowed down.

I think at 140 Marquez could still beat fighters like Hatton and Campbell, but his style seems just so fitting for Floyd and he'll still slow down more then at 135 too.

[DLT]

Then respond to the boxing part. This is a boxing forum, so you might as well make your point. The thing is...your points aren't very good. You're points are:

A. Marquez-Mayweather weigh the same
B. Mayweather's win increases his legacy because he's black???
C. History will tell us that it's fair to these type of situations.

I countered with:

A. It's not the actual how close they are together in weight, but the skill Marquez loses when going up in weight.
B. This doesn't make any sense.
C. I asked for examples and you've given me none.



Except no. They'll use the weight excuse and some will be right and some will be wrong.

Some will say that Mayweather had to much of a weight advantage (this will be the wrong argument)

Then the others will say that Marquez didn't even belong that high because he loses skill and speed when moving up in weight (this will be the right argument).

Also bringing the race card into the fight has nothing to do with it.

Are you ******ed? Seriously. I just told you in that some post that my response to the boxing part was coming immediatly after yet you still say, "well respond to the boxing part".

Honestly Im sick of responding to you guys because its the same thing. I hate talking to hypocrites. You guys do the same exact thing as me except in reverse but Im the one who's wrong? I dont make good come back arguments? Again, why? Because you dont agree with them. Youre too dumb to realize that I think the same exact way about you. Im a Floyd ****? But youre not a Floyd hater at all cost or a JMM ****? Its childish the things you guys say because you think it only goes one way. Its just like you keep saying that Im not respoding to the JMM skill thing going up in weight when I actually responded to it a million times and you keep asking me the same thing. Then you play it off as me hiding from the answer and that proves that Im not good on one on one. Its a joke. Again, how does JMM lose so much skill by going up but Floyd doesnt? Floyd is the only guy in boxing right now who is fighting at the weight limit. Everyone puts on weight except Floyd so that tells you right there that he's not fighting at his best. Was Oscar at his best when he weighed 148 against Pac? What if Cotto only weighed 148 in the ring or any of the other WW's. Stop making excuses. If thats the case then what do you say about Pac? He looks like he's doing fine to me. JMM looked great against Diaz and knocked him out. He came in at a great weight yet you are so sure that he will look so different at 144? Come on now, you have to do better then that

[BmoreBrawler]

insult in the thread title shows insecurity.

[El Dominicano]

Marquez coming in at 140 would be better for him, but he's still moving up in weight and he's untested there. That adds a little depth for him, but Marquez is still going to be slowed down.

I think at 140 Marquez could still beat fighters like Hatton and Campbell, but his style seems just so fitting for Floyd and he'll still slow down more then at 135 too.

Why doesn't he just come in at 140? Weight doesn't always win fights

[DLT]

Marquez coming in at 140 would be better for him, but he's still moving up in weight and he's untested there. That adds a little depth for him, but Marquez is still going to be slowed down.

I think at 140 Marquez could still beat fighters like Hatton and Campbell, but his style seems just so fitting for Floyd and he'll still slow down more then at 135 too.

There goes my point, idiot. Its not as much about the weight as it is about Floyd just being a better fighter. So the dude can beat Hatton at 140 yet Floyd at 144 is such a ***** for fighting him? He can beat the 2 best guys at 140 in Hatton & Pac but Floyd is a ***** at 144 for fighting him? You make no sense. The guy can kill Diaz at LW, beat Campbell, Hatton, and Pac at 140, yet Floyd is the *****? Its not the size its Floyd's skill. Sure JMM might lose a little something but again, its not like Floyd is at the top of his game. Your the same guy who thinks Floyd should fight guys like Cotto who are perfect at WW and huge while Floyd clearly looks slower and everything else you say about JMM. Except against Cotto, Floyd is outweighed in the ring by 15-20 pounds on top of it while JMM will only be outweighed by like 3 pounds. Its a joke what your saying yet you guys think you own me in arguments. Ill eat you guys for lunch any day. I love to talk and I took computer/typing classes so I cant type a million words in a minute. Thats why my post are so long. Now come back with your same weak response. You just dont want JMM to lose to Floyd and thats what it comes down to. Your trying to treat Floyd like he's Cotto or Margarito trying to fight JMM and he's not and you know it

[DLT]

insult in the thread title shows insecurity.

Insecurity? Why, because I think its common sense? I just think that if you think 20 years from now that people wont respect this win or that it wont enhance his legacy then you are smoking. Thats what a ton of people seem to think and they are so wrong about it