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  • Dynamite Kid
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    Oscar was good but not quite great

    OSCAR DE LA HOYA announced his retirement from boxing this week — and no one can argue with the amount of money he generated for himself, and the sport.

    But, despite winning world titles at six different weights and his massive box-office appeal, for me De La Hoya will go down as a good fighter — but not an all-time great.

    He started with Bob Arum after winning Olympic gold at Barcelona in 1992, and owes much of his success to the fantastic job the Hall of Fame promoter did for him early on.

    Arum tapped into De La Hoya’s popularity with the Hispanic market in the States but also helped generate a crossover appeal. When the pair split, Oscar was in prime position to really cash in.

    His 19 PPV fights on HBO generated an astonishing £470million. But, while the Golden Boy was Mr Box Office, he doesn’t compare in terms of quality to Hagler, Hearns, Duran and Leonard.

    Had he boxed when they were around, he would have struggled.

    De La Hoya, 36, lost too many big fights to be a legend. In his last 14 contests, he was 8-6, and in his last seven he won only three.

    Although he only lost to the best — Floyd Mayweather, Felix Trinidad, Manny Pacquiao, Bernard Hopkins and Shane Mosley — great fighters find a way of turning potential “Ls” into “Ws”.

    Perhaps De La Hoya’s greatest achievement is retaining his squeaky-clean image right until the end of his career, despite a reputation for being a party animal and fathering five children by four different women.

    Fortunately, he’s got out with plenty of money. And, while he probably went on a fight or two longer than he should have, his health as well.

    What an idiot. Oscar was a great fighter. Next Warren will be telling us Calzaghe is greater than DLH.


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    if you think he beat Mosley, Trinidad, Chavez who wasn't as washed up as ppl say, and Mayweather then he was great...

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      #3
      Originally posted by BmoreBrawler
      if you think he beat Mosley, Trinidad, Chavez who wasn't as washed up as ppl say, and Mayweather then he was great...
      Do you mean Whitaker, not Chavez

      I think he beat Tito and Pea but lost to Sturm, Mosley and Mayweather

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        I think he can still be called gr8, just not as gr8 as he was supposed to be.

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          Originally posted by BmoreBrawler
          if you think he beat Mosley, Trinidad, Chavez who wasn't as washed up as ppl say, and Mayweather then he was great...
          Yes he beat Mosley the 2nd time. Not the first.

          He is not an ATG, but he was a great fighter.....no question about that imo.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Real OG
            Do you mean Whitaker, not Chavez

            I think he beat Tito and Pea but lost to Sturm, Mosley and Mayweather
            nah, I mean like he beat Chavez, but I don't think Chavez was as shot as they say the first time. People try to discredit that win. I've never seen the Whitaker fight to be honest, I tend to avoid his fights. I'm trying to say that I think he beat those guys and therefore he is great, I know it sounded weird.

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              Originally posted by BmoreBrawler
              nah, I mean like he beat Chavez, but I don't think Chavez was as shot as they say the first time. People try to discredit that win. I've never seen the Whitaker fight to be honest, I tend to avoid his fights. I'm trying to say that I think he beat those guys and therefore he is great, I know it sounded weird.
              Whitaker is excellent fighter to watch. His fights with DLH,Chavez,Nelson were not that excting though...........so he gets labelled boring when he was deffo not boring.
              Last edited by Dynamite Kid; 04-27-2009, 06:55 AM.

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                Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                Whitaker is excellent fighter to watch. His fights with DLH,Chavez,Nelson were not that excting though...........so he gets labelled boring when he was deffo not boring.
                I dunno, I mean if I wanted to watch fencing I'd watch fencing. I watch boxing because it is that happy medium between fighting and a limited sporting event.

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                  Originally posted by BmoreBrawler
                  I dunno, I mean if I wanted to watch fencing I'd watch fencing. I watch boxing because it is that happy medium between fighting and a limited sporting event.
                  What fights have you seen him in? Besides DLH,Chavez,Nelson,Trinidad?

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                    Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                    Whitaker is excellent fighter to watch. His fights with DLH,Chavez,Nelson were not that excting though...........so he gets labelled boring when he was deffo not boring.
                    Agreed, same with Floyd

                    I like watching both guys but some people aren't into that style, personally i like all styles of boxing whether it be a slugfest or a chess match

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