May 2nd cant come soon enough...
Hatton is delusional, so are his fans.
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Based on what facts exactly. Even a blown up shot Juan Lazcano could take his body punches.
Barrera is a much better body puncher then Hatton will ever be and he couldn't hurt Manny downstairs.Comment
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I'll stick with your idea that they were low-blows:
It was really a low blow? Pac wasn't wearing a cup?
How do you really get knocked out from a low blow after just one shot when you are wearing a cup?Comment
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When you get with a low blow you get 5 minutes to recover. When you get hit with a legal body shot you get a 10 count.
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How many fighters have been out-cold like that from a low-blow?
It took Golota several hard shots to Bowe's testicles to take him down and he is black
There was an article about the low-blow and the protective cup a while back showing that the effects wasn't as great as fighters may lead you to believe although certain shots can have a painful affect depending on how and where the punch is delivered. Teddy Atlas talked about this as well.
Here is the one fight. Increase screen size and keep trying to pause it when you see the punch about to land....Time 3:33 is their slow motion.
It's hard to tell a bit but it does look like the initial contact of the punch landed on the chin and chopped it's way down to the body.
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Those who will argue need to watch the fights in question. If you dont watch boxing and only watch Ricky Hatton then you are a fan boy.
If you get hit with a low blow and are knocked down and counted out, you were cheated.
I think the forum is flooded with fan boys but they will be gone when Pacman wins. Enjoy your stay at BS INN you will be checking out on May 2nd :clap:Comment
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Yes you dumb ass those classes were given by me.Class back in. How many fighters have been out-cold like that from a low-blow?
It took Golota several hard shots to Bowe's testicles to take him down and he is black
There was an article about the low-blow and the protective cup a while back showing that the effects wasn't as great as fighters may lead you to believe although certain shots can have a painful affect depending on how and where the punch is delivered. Teddy Atlas talked about this as well.
Here is the one fight. Increase screen size and keep trying to pause it when you see the punch about to land.
Here is where you failed to try to steal my reports.
The cup has to be tailor made in order to be effective. It has to be a custom fit. You dont just put on any cup as these are not custom. The same thing goes with the MOUTH PIECE, you dont just get any mouth piece. When I was fighting, both were custom because my trainer made it this way but not all fighters have the luxury of having custom equipment given to them or made for them.
Manny back then was so poor, he did not have enough to eat. He was a skinny kid who was just getting by. Do you think that Manny had a custom fit protector? If you don't have a snug cup, you will get hurt.
So stop trying to pretend you know what you are talking about because I doubt you have ever even been in the ring.
The test in question was done by Pedro Fernandez who was using his very own protector for this demonstration when he was hit with a sledge hammer to prove a point. This was also done by Johny knoxville who was also using a custom protector, they didnt just grab any protector and say ok hit me.
School is over **** head.
And what the hell does Bowe being black have to do with anything?
:stars:Last edited by Google_It_Bitch; 04-26-2009, 05:03 PM.Comment
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Hatton and his fans claim Pacquiao can not take a body shot. :stars:
And they are basing this on two fights of course.
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Rustico Torrecampo 13 years ago
1996-02-09
Rustico Torrecampo
The year was 1996
Manny was 17 years old and weighed 110 pounds soaking wet and wearing boots. Anyone who has seen this fight will tell you the blow was as low as a blow will ever be.
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Medgoen Singsurat 10 years ago 1999
Dirty fight. Manny claims it was a low blow. I can not see the shot in question as a flag is in the way and Manny has his back towards the camera.
Now unless Hatton tries to land repeated low blows against Manny Pacquiao, I don't see anything else Hatton can do to win. We all seen how dirty Hatton can be (please see Hatton vs KT)
If people want to base this fight on things past, take into consideration that Hatton was knocked the puck out as an amatuer and was knocked out by one shot to the chin by a fragile hands PBF.
If people are trying to compare Manny today to what he was 10 years ago, then you better do your home work. Manny is no longer a skinny little kid. He has evolved.
Manny has already stated that he is ready for a wrestling match and this will most likely be the case. We wont see a new Ricky Hatton. We will see a jumping hugging dirty fighter who will try to wrestle and cheat his way to victory.
Manny will not quit on his stool like an old shot out KT did.
Is that true about Hatton was knocked the puck out as an amatuer ? do you know who by?Comment
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Yes you dumb ass those classes were given by me.
Here is where you failed to try to steal my reports.
The cup has to be tailor made in order to be effective. It has to be a custom fit. You dont just put on any cup as these are not custom. The same thing goes with the MOUTH PIECE, you dont just get any mouth piece. When I was fighting, both were custom because my trainer made it this way but not all fighters have the luxury of having custom equipment given to them or made for them.
Manny back then was so poor, he did not have enough to eat. He was a skinny kid who was just getting by. Do you think that Manny had a custom fit protector? If you don't have a snug cup, you will get hurt.
So stop trying to pretend you know what you are talking about because I doubt you have ever even been in the ring.
The test in question was done by Pedro Fernandez who was using his very own protector for this demonstration when he was hit with a sledge hammer to prove a point. This was also done by Johny knoxville who was also using a custom protector, they didnt just grab any protector and say ok hit me.
School is over **** head.
And what the hell does Bowe being black have to do with anything?
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First, yes, I've been in the ring, but not as a boxer...
Second, I used a protective cup that wasn't specially made to my balls. They have different size cups and you do your best to see which one feels comfortable.
Lastly: Check the shot out again: It looks like a chopping shot from the chin to the body. Even the commentators say it was a chin shot and his eyes were crossed. Look at how Pac reacts after he takes the shot...not sure that is a reaction from a nut-shot; more like a chin shot.
Any word on what Manny said about the fight and do you have proof he wasn't wearing a proper cup?
It was also a chopping shot from the sky to the floor, not an uppercut.Last edited by Benny Leonard; 04-26-2009, 05:12 PM.Comment
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