American boxing on it's knees

[THe TRiNiTY]

Ring Magazine, a fat yank publication, no?

no flames, just a fact

ROFLMAO. You have just pulled the lamest excuse, ever.

Fine. Give me the name of five fighters from the U.K. that have a chance at beating one of the guys on the list I gave you. Then, I'll make a poll and see if people from all sides of the pond agree with you.

That's fair, isn't it? ;]

FLAME.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Weebler, wears Panties with **** holes on them!!!!!!!!!!

Damn Fruit cake!!!!!!!!!!!


Stop the nonsense, dude, danm ****ing bull ****!!!!!!!!

[Weebler I]

look, weebler...I back you brits up all the time in here, but chill on the nationalism in here.....and its a fact brits have gotten owned in america more then the other way around.....but i'm still a huge supporter of british boxing.

I always thought you were British J.B., how come you're such a fan of British boxing?

ROFLMAO. You have just pulled the lamest excuse, ever.

Fine. Give me the name of five fighters from the U.K. that have a chance at beating one of the guys on the list I gave you. Then, I'll make a poll and see if people from all sides of the pond agree with you.

That's fair, isn't it? ;]

FLAME.

no, polls on NSB are always horribly biased towards fat yanks. You guys are always pulling extra numbers on us.

[Spacey1991]

look, weebler...I back you brits up all the time in here, but chill on the nationalism in here.....and its a fact brits have gotten owned in america more then the other way around.....but i'm still a huge supporter of british boxing.

Fair post, well said...

[THe TRiNiTY]

A respected Fat Yank publication.

A respected publication, the world over. A publication that Hatton himself had no problem backing when that was the only organization willing to accept him as the true champion in his respective weight class.

But, of course, that's different.

[Dubious-Dutch]

I always thought you were British J.B., how come you're such a fan of British boxing?

It is sad when a Yank can't be considered a fan of British boxing by your standards.

[GrizzleBoy]

Top ten boxers, in each division, according to Ring Magazine;

U.K.:
Ricky Hatton, champion, p4p
Rendall Munroe
Nicky Cook
Amir Khan
Junior Witter
Carl Froch
Clinton Woods
Ola Afolabi
David Haye

U.S.A.
Kelly Pavlik, Champion
Bernard Hopkins, p4p
Shane Mosley, p4p
Kendall Holt
Nate Campbell
Paulie Malignaggi
Timothy Bradley
Yusaf Mack
Roy Jones Jr.
Antonio Tarver
Chad Dawson
Steve Cunningham
Matt Godfrey
Eddie Chambers
Chris Arreola
Rocky Juarez
Steven Luevano
Robert Guerrero
Juan Diaz
Rolando Reyes
Anthony Peterson
Andre Berto
Luis Collazo
Zab Judah
James Kirkland
Vernon Forrest
Paul Williams
Cory Spinks
Sergio Mora
Randy Griffin
Jermain Taylor
Allan Green


On it's knees, and still head and shoulders above the Brits.

No flames. Just fact.

Given that the USA has a population about four times that of the UK, your list looks quite proportional to me.

If both territories were of the same population level, you could make that kind of comparison, but they aren't.

It's like saying that just because countries like China/Taiwan who manufacture most of the products you see in your house means that those products are superior just because they produce more than a smaller country with a smaller amount of factories.

I'm not saying that UK boxing > US boxing, but I don't think that comparison works.

[Dubious-Dutch]

A respected publication, the world over. A publication that Hatton himself had no problem backing when that was the only organization willing to accept him as the true champion in his respective weight class.

But, of course, that's different.

Didn't Hatton state that the only belt which matters is the Ring Belt?

[The_Visitation]

Things aren't looking good for US boxing right now, all the star performers are from overseas with the home fighters getting ktfo on the regular.

Which young US fighter do you see coming through that might potentially rescue them from this mess?

It's not that bad! I expect Dawson, Bradley and Williams in particular to all be dominating their divisions (several, probably, in PW's case) in a couple of years time, all are class acts and exciting to watch to boot. I can't understand why Williams isn't more popular, he's a potential ATG in my opinion. Pavlik is set at MW, as long as he doesn't have delusions of moving up with the same success.

The one thing America really needs is serious HW contender or two to seize the public imagination, particularly if Haye rather than the brothers K turns out to be the target... what a show that would be! At the moment, though I just don't think you have one. Maybe Arreola will surprise me, though, it he finally sets his mind.. and training regime.. to it. Flab-buckets just don't win HW titles any more.

[Dubious-Dutch]

Given that the USA has a population about four times that of the UK, your list looks quite proportional to me.

If both territories were of the same population level, you could make that kind of comparison, but they aren't.

Population is only one factor to look at. Check out PR or Mexico for example.