Froch-Taylor Live Blog - Froch Knocks Taylor Out

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  • NakiFan
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    #31
    I just won 19 k on here and however much my 20 quid got me for froch by ko!

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    • TheFairPole
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      #32
      You guys are on crack! Why don't you get in the ring and show us how its done then?

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      • Kobe Bryant
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        #33
        Originally posted by KEYNES
        Anytime you fight Bernard Hopkins twice, you become damaged goods.

        Why do you think Roy Jones made sure he never entered the ring with Satan-incarnate again?
        Excellent point. I kind of feel bad for him because he's a nice guy. But this aint a nice man's game.

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        • Butterball
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          #34
          How I correctly predicted that Carl Froch would beat Jermain Taylor...

          .. you might remember in a poll thread (which I can't find on search) I gave Froch a 52.1% chance of victory and predicted he would win the fight.

          Over the last two-three years I've only got THREE fight picks wrong - none of which involved UK boxers.

          Naturally, of course, in picking Froch I was a "homer" and not objective like the American posters (Drew, I'm looking at you) who picked the American to win.


          Here's how I did it, this is how I break it down:



          1. Mental Attitude.

          I always start a fight pick with this. The mental fortitude is where the fight always begins and ends, within reason. Some fights you can even tell who the winner is before they've entered the ring - Jones-Tarver II and Calzaghe-Lacy being two recent examples.

          The major difference between Froch and Taylor is that Taylor is a professional sportsman, Froch is a natural fighter. That's the difference. Taylor calls himself "bad intentions" but it's Froch that has the "dog" in him. Taylor has shown in the past that he can be stopped and not recover, and also lose focus, whereas Froch has the hunger.

          I concede that this was slightly off in this fight, given that Taylor showed more fortitude than I'd expected (when it was going his way, at least) and Froch showed more doubt.

          But look at when Froch got decked, and the round right after - he's trying to make the fight. The final thirty seconds of round three, post-KD, were Froch pressing forward. That's the "X Factor" I was using to calculate my pick for this fight.



          2. Physical Equipment.

          Taylor's the faster one, the better boxer, Froch arguably has the edge in power. But - and this is crucial - Taylor has a leaky gas tank. This is what I've always said from DAY ONE. The guy has a (I'll concede, not THAT pronounced tonight) stamina issue. This was a VITAL FACTOR in my fight pick. I'd reasoned that Froch - who was decked for the first time today, amateur or pro - would be able to last the distance. But expecting Jermain to go twelve long rounds with Froch and stay on his feet against a noted ****er was expecting a lot.

          People would tell me that my pick was a "biased" (or "bias") one, as Taylor was clearly the better boxer. But I wasn't picking Carl to win a boxing match, I was picking him to win a FIGHT. I can't comment too closely on my scorecard as the stream I was watching kept dropping out, so it was anyone's guess for close rounds. But regardless, Froch needed a least a couple of KDs.

          People seem to forget that Taylor was beaten TWICE by a boxer who's even more upright, just as slow (maybe?) and even more one-dimensional than Froch can be. When people talk about what a great boxer Taylor is - and he IS a very good boxer - they seem to forget that he's, at best, a nine round fighter. This is a guy that was backed up by Cory Spinks and Kassim Ouma, and Froch is fully-fledged supermiddle.



          3. Experience.


          This is where the doubt set in, and why Taylor got a 48.9% chance from me. Carl has never - THROUGH NO FAULT OF HIS OWN - had the opportunity to step up this far before. Could he make the leap? Just because he hasn't, doesn't mean he can't, but there's no way of knowing until he did.

          Conversely, people talk a lot about Jermain's experience, even though he went 2-1-2 in those "big five" fights (and 1-0-4 on my card).

          People mention opponents like Winky Wright, and while Winky is an excellent technical boxer, HE CAN'T **** AT MIDDLEWEIGHT. People seem to think that Winky being P4P top ten means that he carries that "P4P" up with him through the rankings. HE DOESN'T. He's not a proper MW, he's certainly NOT A LHW (or catchweight). He's a smaller guy, so Winky putting on 7lbs and calling himself a middle doesn't make him a fully fledged middle.

          Let's get this straight before it gets out and some idiot tries to deliberately misunderstand my point - I AM NOT saying that Froch is a better boxer than Wright. The fact that he was getting beaten to the punch all night while I had Wright beating Taylor attests that.

          What I AM saying is that Wright doesn't win fights by stoppage. He's NOT a puncher. Gas out against Wright late (as, surprise, Taylor did) and all you'll get is a black eye. Gas out against Froch late and ... well, you saw.




          YET AGAIN I was right with a fight pick. Jesus, it gets boring sometimes.

          Drew, you owe me an apology for accusing me of being a homer.

          Like I said, Froch would WIN. I DIDN'T say he would outbox Taylor, I said he would win the fight.


          Here's my video:

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          • Boxing Bully
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            #35
            youre being a bit harsh on taylor here. kid has one of the best jabs in the upper divisions, showed pretty good defense. just lacks heart and stamina

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            • Drunk Punch
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              #36
              I can't wait to see this fight! Cong**** to everyone in the Midlands!

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              • P.WILL
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                #37
                I believe Kevin Iole wrote this

                taylor needs to win this fight or he will be remembered as a fighter who was almost great........

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                • The Monk
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
                  I remember us talking about this day in the past... I'm going to buy you a gift good Sir..
                  Adie and Welter....last two years us Froch fans have been in the minority, now its ****ing worth it! Taylor got stung by the cobra.

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                  • adietheforestfa
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Infern0
                    I just won 19 k on here and however much my 20 quid got me for froch by ko!
                    Some muppet gave me 4 to 1 odds.

                    hahahaha

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                    • KEYNES
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by lefhooktodabody
                      Excellent point. I kind of feel bad for him because he's a nice guy. But this aint a nice man's game.
                      Yeah it is kind of sad.
                      I bet his wife and family were pissed at him.

                      Remember how mad they were when he got knocked out by Pavlik?

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