Has Wlad faced anyone that could apply effective head movement?

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  • bsrizpac
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    #11
    Originally posted by ~Tunney
    Byrd was at his peak in 2000 the first time Wlad fought him.
    Can't believe I'm agreeing with Tunney but exactly correct. All the Wlad haters forget that Wlad fought him TWICE.

    OOOPS. And he was NOT shot the first time.

    Moving on to yet another way to hate on Wlad...

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    • BrooklynBomber
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      #12
      Yeah, he did, and guess what, Haye ain't one of these guys.

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      • TheGreatA
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        #13
        Byrd was pretty much stationary in the rematch but he was indeed around his prime when he first fought Wladimir and barely survived the distance in a one-sided fight.



        Haye has little head movement from what I've seen.

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        • street bully
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          #14
          Originally posted by ~Tunney
          Byrd was at his peak in 2000 the first time Wlad fought him.
          Your right. Their first fight slipped my mind. Wlad is pretty damn technically skilled,

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          • bsrizpac
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            #15
            Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
            Yeah, he did, and guess what, Haye ain't one of these guys.
            HAHAHHAA.

            Quick question for thread starter: How does Lamon Brewster fight?

            Also how many heavyweights since Tyson have had good head movement. Please list them. LOL.

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            • GrizzleBoy
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              #16
              Originally posted by Welter_Skelter
              It has nothing to do with the way his Opponents "fought"

              It has everything to do with the way Wlad fights.. he is extremely good at hitting and not getting hit.. and he makes his opponents look lost and hopeless
              Hrmmmm, I think it has JUST as much to do with the way they fought.

              It's not even like they come out TRYING to show any real movement to the point where you can say that Wlad is taking them out of their rhythm and making them fight his fight etc even though they are to a point by standing straight up and plodding right into a taller guy with hard straight punhces.

              I mean seriously wtf?

              Can you imagine Tyson fighting taller fighters with good jabs like that?

              Can you imagine Frazier trying to fight Ali like that? Ali would just do the same as Wlad. Jab till his neck muscles snapped and then pop his head off with a right straight.

              The only difference would be that Ali would probably mix it up a little more and be on his toes, but it's the same strategy. They would both have had a target that hardly moved to hit from distance as they felt, because there would be no head movement to even discourage them from throwing.

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              • Ray*
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                #17
                If you looking for Tyson head/body movement then no but Chris byrd was a good mover who also wasnt a big HW, He was suppose to give Wlad trouble with his quick combo, Movement but i guess you need to have power to gain Wlad's respect which Byrd doesnt have.

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                • kenso
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by TheManchine
                  Byrd was pretty much stationary in the rematch but he was indeed around his prime when he first fought Wladimir and barely survived the distance in a one-sided fight.



                  Haye has little head movement from what I've seen.
                  also, if i remember right, wlad had to take chris byrd to court to get a rematch cause wlad was a mandatory. i forgot if the case ACTUALLY went to court or it was just a threat, but regardless, byrd did NOT want to fight wladimir that second time around.

                  also brewster had decent head movement their first fight, but wlad had something severely wrong with him. up until the point to where his body gave out, he was annihilating brewster.

                  even after wlad annihilates haye, and who ever else they put in front of him, the next big things at heavyweight will simply be "washed up" (according to people like the thread maker) after the fight is over, or be completely abandoned by a number of their fans cause they cant accept the fact that a fighter they dislike is actually pretty damn good. you will see all the same people that are making the threads about haye crushing wlad, talking **** about how haye sucks once wlad wins. same with arreola if the fight ever happens.

                  end the hate, just makes you look dumb

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                  • kenso
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                    #19
                    also, if you want to talk **** about wlad, put your ****ing points up. ive got 100k free i can bet on wlad RIGHT now, just send me a msg, or stop acting like a chump!

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                    • kenso
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by GrizzleBoy
                      It's not even like they come out TRYING to show any real movement to the point where you can say that Wlad is taking them out of their rhythm and making them fight his fight etc even though they are to a point by standing straight up and plodding right into a taller guy with hard straight punhces.
                      its alot easier said than done, considering wlad's jab (like it or not), is definitely ranked with the top jabs of all time for heavyweights.

                      edit - sorry for the triple post....

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