Is Floyd effectively saying i dont want to fight a but...

[Spacey1991]

Is Floyd effectively saying i dont want to fight at 147, but i will make out im campaigning there so i can drag these little guys up there where i have a big advantage physically.

Dont you think it will be a bit strange if Floyd ends up fighting Marquez and then possibly Pacquiao who are both NOT natural WW. Yet he is supposed campaigning at 147. In his recent fights he will gone after Hatton,Pacquiao and Marquez whist maintaing he is fighting at WW..........WTF?

Surely Mayweather must and some point fight a Cotto-Williams etc to.

Floyd isn't naturally a Welterweight... but I understand what you are saying as a whole, fair enough. I don't see whats wrong in him fighting Marquez at whatever weight because it is classed as a warm up fight (not gonna call it a tune-up), and a Pacquiao fight is something many people want to see.

If Floyd fights Marquez, to brush of the dust... I would then like to see him fight Pacquiao and either Cotto/Mosley, maybe both but it depends on how thing pan out at the time... none of us can predict the future.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Floyd is simply saying that if you got the balls to call me out come up to my weight and fight me in my weight class. when money called de la hoya out did they fight at a catch weight? didnt think so.. he moved up to goldies weght class didnt he? i think thats what happend if i remember correctly.

floyd is not a natural ww either. he started his career below 140 and moved up just like pac and jmm

Fighters have done that,

and Floyd ran with this tail between his legs.

[deevel79]

Floyd isn't naturally a Welterweight... but I understand what you are saying as a whole, fair enough. I don't see whats wrong in him fighting Marquez at whatever weight because it is classed as a warm up fight (not gonna call it a tune-up), and a Pacquiao fight is something many people want to see.

If Floyd fights Marquez, to brush of the dust... I would then like to see him fight Pacquiao and either Cotto/Mosley, maybe both but it depends on how thing pan out at the time... none of us can predict the future.

Funny how most fans of his say he isnt a natural WW, yet its ok for him to stay there and fight lw's and lww's there, but when it comes to fighting WW, all of a sudden, his fans are quick to shout out how they feel he's "not a natural WW"

Once again, which is it?

If he's a WW, then he has to fight WW's. If he's too small for WW as most of you feel, then he should move down to 140.

I dont see whats the problem here.

[Vasyl’s dad]

When you are top dawg you call the shots! Period! And stop always bringing cotto up when u talk PBF, IMO huge gap in skills!! cotto aint even the best in the ww division!

Wow, so that must mean that Roy and Bernard had the chance to fight Calzaghe when he was younger,

but they didn't.


Funny how that works.


Floyd is no top dog, DLH just gave him a platform to bark from.

No DLH, no million PPV.

Fact.

[GunzNButter]

There is one thing about all this discussion about floyds weight that bugs me. When this arguement about floyd not fighting the "true" welters crops up, it goes something like this, Floyd ducked guys like margo, cotto, mosley, williams, no he didnt the fights never happened, in fact cotto and mosley ducked floyd in the past so why should he fight them now, ive got quotes from mosley and cotto calling floyd out but he retired soon after, why, no he didnt they dont bring anything to the table for money mayweather, there not on his level, floyd beats them all, plus floyd is not really a welter anyways, hes smaller than those guys fight night.

What does all of this mean? It looks like floyd can comfortably come in from 147 to 152 fight night, but other welters will be 155+. IF floyds not a welter then what is he? a light welter or just a guy who fights at around 150 fight night. He not a light welter as he cant make 140 on the scales so hes either a welter (not a big welter) or something else. If he cant make 140 on the scales then he should be fighting guys who also cant make 140. Nobody is denying him his money fights but he should also be taking the "Welter" fights too imo

He should fight them because this is Boxing kid. A sport where the BEST should fight the BEST. Shane Mosley has never ducked Floyd Mayweather EVER. Floyd wanted NO PART of 135 pound Mosley so forget what you heard. And then Mosley went to 147 to get the DeLaHoya fight. Floyds only real attempt to fight Mosley recently was after the Vargas fights in 06, but Mosley wanted a Vacation. He said his Body was tired and he needed rest. I DONT BLAME HIM HE HAD JUST BEEN IN THE RING WITH VARAGS A GUY WHO WALKS AROUND AT 200 POUNDS. Most people forget Shane Mosley came up from 135(lightweight) and He's fighting guys who are Natural Middleweights and Light Heavyweights. FLoyd was trying SO HARD to fight Mosley after the second Vargas fight BECAUSE FLOY WAS RUNNING FROM MARGO AT THAT TIME. Do the research, Shane Mosley even said that Floyd should fight Margo. Mosley said the whole toothache thing because Oscar wanted to fight Floyd. Can you tell me who Mosley has EVER DUCKED? Better yet Go ask Winky Wright does Shane Mosley duck fighters, Or go ask Vernon Forrest does Shane Mosley duck fighters. These are Guys who beat him BUT these guys have so much respect for Shane Mosley for bringing them out of the Dark. Ask yourself this, If Shane didn't duck an Undefeated guy like Vernon Forrest(who beat him in the Amateurs and still had all the tools to beat him) what makes you think he is ducking a Smaller,Shorter,Pillow Punching guy that he's just as fast as like Floyd?(Floyd has never Ko'd a Real welter sorry)

[deevel79]

Its as if Floyd fans want to create a special weight-class JUST for Floyd

[Burner]

Is Floyd effectively saying i dont want to fight at 147, but i will make out im campaigning there so i can drag these little guys up there where i have a big advantage physically.

Dont you think it will be a bit strange if Floyd ends up fighting Marquez and then possibly Pacquiao who are both NOT natural WW. Yet he is supposed campaigning at 147. In his recent fights he will gone after Hatton,Pacquiao and Marquez whist maintaing he is fighting at WW..........WTF?

Surely Mayweather must and some point fight a Cotto-Williams etc to.

No what hes saying is..the lowest hell go in his COMEBACKFIGHT anf first fight in 2 years is 143.5....also considering he hasnt weighed 140 pounds in 5 years.

This is a comeback fight....itll be at 143.5......

Pac-Hatton winner will fight Floyd at 140 pounds.

[Burner]

Wow, so that must mean that Roy and Bernard had the chance to fight Calzaghe when he was younger,

but they didn't.


Funny how that works.


Floyd is no top dog, DLH just gave him a platform to bark from.

No DLH, no million PPV.

Fact.

ODH biggest PPV and top sellng PPV involved mayweather.

Fact.

[Dynamite Kid]

Floyd isn't naturally a Welterweight... but I understand what you are saying as a whole, fair enough. I don't see whats wrong in him fighting Marquez at whatever weight because it is classed as a warm up fight (not gonna call it a tune-up), and a Pacquiao fight is something many people want to see.

If Floyd fights Marquez, to brush of the dust... I would then like to see him fight Pacquiao and either Cotto/Mosley, maybe both but it depends on how thing pan out at the time... none of us can predict the future.

Agree with everything you said. The only thing is, if he does beat Marquez he will almost certainly have to fight Cotto at some point imo, because if he then goes onto fight Pac after beating Marquez and retires again feeling he has proved himself against p4p 1/2 the criticism will still be there, rightly or wrongly. The only way to negate that criticism would be to step out of the WW division and go to 140. It just makes it seem as though he wants all the physical advantages to be able have the best chance to win. If that is the case and he does win his wins will be tainted by the fact he beat smaller men.

He is not a natural WW himself, but he is much bigger than JMM and Pacquiao naturally. Marquez i dont have a problem with, because its a warm up. There are no warm up guys at 147 that would give Floyd as much trouble as Marquez could pose.

[Benny Leonard]

Its as if Floyd fans want to create a special weight-class JUST for Floyd

They've already been created when we allow fighters to show up 10-20 pounds over the actual weight of the division. Fix that and you have yourself a case.