please explain how floyd is the best at 147

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  • dans
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    #21
    Originally posted by a-raines21
    im not joking..... the fact of the matter is cotto has never beaten a ww champion, mainly because floyd dethroned them before cotto could bet to them..... and, aside from mosley, cotto hasn't fought anyone at 147 worth mentioning...... and dont you dare say margarito.....

    Floyd has fought:
    Sharmba Mitchell
    Zab Judah-champ
    Carlos Baldomir-champ
    Ricky Hatton- champ

    Cotto has fought:
    Zab Judah-ex champ
    Mosley-ex champ
    Margarito- **** fighter
    Jennings- does he count?
    Gomez- Really?
    Come on man. Really?

    Put it this way, Margarito > Baldomir, Mosley > Judah, Judah > Mitchell. Cotto has the better resume at welterweight, no question.

    That being said, Mayweather is the best welterweight in the world.

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      #22
      Originally posted by boxasmash
      the facto you missed out quintana just prooves to me what i thought

      mosley>hatton
      quintana>baldomir
      judah> margarito>mitchell

      and why can't i say margarito?? atleast cotto fought him.
      quintana is a b class fighter and you know it.... and what do you mean "at least he fought him"? hes a **** fighter...... cotto get no kudos for losing to a **** fighter dude..... wake up

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        #23
        Originally posted by a-raines21
        quintana is a b class fighter and you know it.... and what do you mean "at least he fought him"? hes a **** fighter...... cotto get no kudos for losing to a **** fighter dude..... wake up
        So is Judah. Who has Judah beaten who is elite to make himself elite?

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          #24
          Originally posted by a-raines21
          quintana is a b class fighter and you know it.... and what do you mean "at least he fought him"? hes a **** fighter...... cotto get no kudos for losing to a **** fighter dude..... wake up
          raines you need to wake up today. You're normally a good poster, but this is crap. Margarito is a "three time" (fact check?) welterweight champion and has wins over a lot of the top competition in the division. Plus he was using plaster. If you can't give Cotto credit for fighting him, I don't know what to tell you.

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          • boxasmash
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            #25
            quitana is better than judah, margarito kills judah.

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              #26
              I'd pick Mr boat buyer over SSM and Cotto, but obviously I'd like to see him prove it. He retired without facin his top challengers at 147, so he's got unfinished business there. I don't give a **** about fights between he and Pac or JMM, although they have credibility at 140. If he's gonna come back and fight at WW, go for the WW title, against a ****in WW.

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              • boxasmash
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                #27
                i might pick mayweather over mosley but thats only because mosley is getting on now.

                i'd pick cotto to win againstr mayweather, mayweather had troubles with oscar when he used his jab and left hooks, tell me who fights like oscar? cotto is a lot younger and can keep it up, oscar tried to pressure mayweather and he isn't a pressure fighter.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by boxasmash
                  i might pick mayweather over mosley but thats only because mosley is getting on now.

                  i'd pick cotto to win againstr mayweather, mayweather had troubles with oscar when he used his jab and left hooks, tell me who fights like oscar? cotto is a lot younger and can keep it up, oscar tried to pressure mayweather and he isn't a pressure fighter.
                  Mayweathers fight vs Oscar was at 154 and Oscar has a longer reach + more height than Cotto. Can't really compare the two.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by boxasmash
                    i might pick mayweather over mosley but thats only because mosley is getting on now.

                    i'd pick cotto to win againstr mayweather, mayweather had troubles with oscar when he used his jab and left hooks, tell me who fights like oscar? cotto is a lot younger and can keep it up, oscar tried to pressure mayweather and he isn't a pressure fighter.
                    Cotto ‘s jab is nowhere as good as Oscar. Floyd figured out him by round 4. Oscar stamina is the same as Cotto. They die out near the end of a fight. Oscar has faster handspeed and combinations. Oscar is much taller and longer reach than Cotto. I don’t think Mayweather will have trouble with Cotto’s jab.

                    Other person Floyd had trouble was is Judah. Because of hand speed and Judah reach is the same as Floyd.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Malcolm.
                      Cotto ‘s jab is nowhere as good as Oscar. Floyd figured out him by round 4. Oscar stamina is the same as Cotto. They die out near the end of a fight. Oscar has faster handspeed and combinations. Oscar is much taller and longer reach than Cotto. I don’t think Mayweather will have trouble with Cotto’s jab.

                      Other person Floyd had trouble was is Judah. Because of hand speed and Judah reach is the same as Floyd.
                      cotto has a great jab, it's fast and crisp. he beat mosley using it.. oscar is faded as we saw in his last 3 fights, his stamina is no where near cotto's anymore.

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