No, Pavlik isn't any good. Way too slow and stiff to be elite. If he wasn't white, everyone would recognize that, but in our racist society even someone like him will have fans.
Don't get me wrong, B-Hop's win over him was great, and Hop was a great fighter in his day. But Hop has declined a lot lately, no different from any other boxers when they get in the late 30s or 40s. His success in the last five years isn't because he's still so great, it's more because almost everyone else around him today from 160 and up is so terrible. Prime Hop would KO Pavlik in 3, tops.
you think if pavlik had just played it say and never even fought b hop ten pounds above the weight class in wich he belongs people on here would be talking all this **** about him ? i hate how when a fighters doing well in his career nsb is on his **** and as soon as he faces some controversy or a loss there stabbing him the back and talking about how overrated he is.
pavlik is leaps and bounds better than any mw in the world other than aurthur and hell prove it when he knocks mora out cold in under 8
No, Pavlik isn't any good. Way too slow and stiff to be elite. If he wasn't white, everyone would recognize that, but in our racist society even someone like him will have fans.
Don't get me wrong, B-Hop's win over him was great, and Hop was a great fighter in his day. But Hop has declined a lot lately, no different from any other boxers when they get in the late 30s or 40s. His success in the last five years isn't because he's still so great, it's more because almost everyone else around him today from 160 and up is so terrible. Prime Hop would KO Pavlik in 3, tops.
This is an example of a man who has no grip on reality...
Can't count Mora out. After all, he did beat Forrest in their 1st match so he can pull it off. Pavlik is more likely the one favored to win but if Mora can frustrate and make him miss, it could be a different story.
why do all the fighter want too shock the world. Buster douglas shocked the wold, so did cassius clay, but who now a day the boxing communaty isn't as big anymore, so the world don't care about mora vs. pavlik. So it's a ****** comment
why do all the fighter want too shock the world. Buster douglas shocked the wold, so did cassius clay, but who now a day the boxing communaty isn't as big anymore, so the world don't care about mora vs. pavlik. So it's a ****** comment
No, Pavlik isn't any good. Way too slow and stiff to be elite. If he wasn't white, everyone would recognize that, but in our racist society even someone like him will have fans.
Don't get me wrong, B-Hop's win over him was great, and Hop was a great fighter in his day. But Hop has declined a lot lately, no different from any other boxers when they get in the late 30s or 40s. His success in the last five years isn't because he's still so great, it's more because almost everyone else around him today from 160 and up is so terrible. Prime Hop would KO Pavlik in 3, tops.
I have heard white fans say that Pavlik is slow and stiff. However, the fact is he has beat elite fighters and he is the World Middleweight Champion. But, I do agree with you on one point. Because your are right, we still do live in a racist country. And after reading your comments it might lead one to believe that we might even have some on this forum.
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