Who hits harder at 140 Tszyu or Pacquiao ?

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    #21
    Originally posted by hammerhiem
    You realise that Tzsyu had one of his best wins 6 months before the Hatton fight right?

    No of course you don't, you have no boxing knowledge, you just want to hate on hatton.
    Um. I would disagree. Zoo beat the **** out Mitchell three years earlier and if it wasn't for Mitchell's phony injury, he would've been ktfo in 2001.

    Funny how Mayweather picked Mitchell after Zoo finished him off completely. LOL.

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    • hammerhiem
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      #22
      Originally posted by jreckoning
      Um. I would disagree. Zoo beat the **** out Mitchell three years earlier and if it wasn't for Mitchell's phony injury, he would've been ktfo in 2001.

      Funny how Mayweather picked Mitchell after Zoo finished him off completely. LOL.
      Have you even seen the 2005 Mitchell Vs Tzsyu fight? Tzsyu was fcuking awesome.

      he finished Mitchell off faster and with more style than PBF and Paul Williams, Mitchell was unbeaten in between the two Tzsyu fights and was widely known to be the clear No2 in teh division.

      the Mitchell win in 05 is probably Tzsyu's third best win behind Judah and JCC.

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      • revs1227
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        #23
        i would assume tszyu ..but i havnt seen manny at 140 ..i hope he dont lol

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          #24
          Originally posted by hammerhiem
          You realise that Tzsyu had one of his best wins 6 months before the Hatton fight right?

          No of course you don't, you have no boxing knowledge, you just want to hate on hatton.
          That was 7 months before the Hatton fight that was a long layoff, and don't you realised that Tszyu retired after. Why? coz he was on the way out already plus his shoulder injury. Put a 37 y/o Hatton against a prime JWW, let's see what happens.

          Sure Tszyu was one of the greatest Jww of all time, but compare him to pac which is fighting 140 the first time is crazy and desperate.

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          • hammerhiem
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            #25
            Originally posted by salsalero
            Sure Tszyu was one of the greatest Jww of all time, but compare him to pac which is fighting 140 the first time is crazy and desperate.
            I think I said that it wasn't a question that should be asked. but it's no more ****** than literally dozens of other pointless ****** threads that populate this forum.

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            • Left Hook Tua
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              #26
              Originally posted by salsalero
              don't you get it, this thread is to make TSZYU soooooooo good so that Fatton's win over the GERIATRIC Tsyzu was sooooo ****in' great.

              so desperate.
              hatton's win over an old tszyu was a great win.

              pacquiao is still gonna whoop ricky's ass though.



              pacquiao tko5-7. if ricky gets past 9 , he's tougher than i thought.

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                #27
                Originally posted by hammerhiem
                You realise that Tzsyu had one of his best wins 6 months before the Hatton fight right?

                No of course you don't, you have no boxing knowledge, you just want to hate on hatton.
                You do know that people were talking about Tszyu being past his prime during the build up to Judah, right?
                And even Judah mentioned Tszyu wasn't the same fighter as his younger self.

                You also know that Hatton also mentioned Tszyu's age and inactvity, right?; as well as saying that the Mitchell fight didn't show us if Tszyu still had the stamina to go the distance; the fight was to short.

                35/36 years old, 9 rounds in 3 years, 3 serious injuries that needed surgery, living in Australia, and still trying to make 140 after all these years while trying to fight in the wee ours of the morning when you are on Granfather time.


                Hatton had to do what he had to do to the older Tszyu to win. Somebody had to knock Tszyu off the mountain top.



                For the Thread Question: Tszyu hits harder. Even people that face Pac don't really complain about his Power as much as they do his speed an accumulation.

                One of the reasons why that Mitchell (II) fight was so easy for Tszyu was because Mitchell was terrified even before the bell rang. According to Tyson, Emanuel and others, they saw Mitchell in the dressing room and he was scared ****less. I suspect he remembered the first fight and now had to back up his words that he had been saying during Tszyu's inactivity (from injuries) and knew a mad/motivated Tszyu is the worse version you can face.


                One of my favorite KO's from Tszyu:

                Last edited by Benny Leonard; 04-18-2009, 11:33 AM.

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                  #28
                  You do know that people were talking about Tszyu being past his prime during the build up to Judah, right?
                  And even Judah mentioned Tszyu wasn't the same fighter as his younger self
                  Yeah really accurate points you make...

                  Oh wait here comes the chicken dance!



                  DANCE FOR ME BABY!!

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                  • oldgringo
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                    #29
                    Kostya Tszyu. The guy hit extremely hard with both hands. His right hand is obviously his money punch, but his left hook was pretty tough too.

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                    • Benny Leonard
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by hammerhiem
                      Yeah really accurate points you make...

                      Oh wait here comes the chicken dance!



                      DANCE FOR ME BABY!!
                      Foreman KO'd Michael Moorer...I guess George was still in his prime. How about Tyson's KO of Botha when moments before the KO, they were saying "This is the mark of a shot fighter."

                      The conversation Judah was having about Tszyu was this: Tszyu had mentioned that he was watching old fights of his, from his amateur to early pro days and said he was going to try to bring back some of that ability/style....but Judah knocked it right down by saying Tszyu can't do that anymore; he is to old and he has slowed. The agility Tszyu had when he was younger, not there. The speed in hand Tsyu had when he was younger, not quite the same.

                      What Tszyu still had though for Judah was his power and timing as well as experience.
                      Last edited by Benny Leonard; 04-18-2009, 11:41 AM.

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