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  • #71
    I've watched this fight a million times, and every time, I always feel Oscar was robbed out of his victory and no dout deserved the win.

    Harold Lederman's scoring for this fight is pretty mind boggling also.

    The only thing I will say, is that there was no dout De La Hoya deserved the win, but if he just could of stood his ground for the last few round's and threw a few more combinations, I think the win could of been sealed much more easier for him.

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    • #72
      I have rewatched and rewatched this fight.
      I give De La Hoya 9 of the 12 rounds. The thing here to know is that DLH had declarred this his retirement fight.
      That means the promoters were loosing their
      biggest cash cow. They had to do something to prolong the revenue stream. Trinidad just happened to be the person they chose to be the "next". A more recent occurence of this would be Dawson/Johnson. Johnson is the old man out. They will not put large sums of money behind him plus they already had a BIG fight with Tarver.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by Kevin Jesus View Post
        Oscar's corner told him to run. All Oscar did was listen to his corner.
        no they didnt say run they said to be careful and that he had the fight won not to get caught they didnt say run a marathon now

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        • #74
          Let me say something. There are like 3 or 4 close rounds in that fight. Ima be str8ght up im a big tito fan u can tell my my avatar and my signature. The first time i saw that fight i though dlh won 7-5 then after ive seen it so many times and i always get a draw. The reason people say dlh won is because the rounds he won where dominating like he clearly won those rounds. The rounds that tito won in my opinion were close rounds except 9-12. Round one was close i think 2 was also thers like 2 other rounds that were close. You got to remember its a whole different fight when your watching it up close from the judges table. I guess the 2 or 3 close rounds they gave to tito also the last 4 rounds but i had the fight a Draw. One more thing I think delahoya should have fought if he was going to run do it the last round or 2 not the last 4 cause it really started in the 9th.

          On another note. For the ******* talking **** bout calderon vs cazares you cant say **** cause cazares is way bigger than calderon also look at the numbers calderon was throwing more punches than delahoya was in the last 4 rounds against tito.

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          • #75
            im pr and not ashamed 2 say that oscar won hands down, in my opinion he was the 1 2 expose tito b4 hopkins. i was shocked at the judging cause watching the fight i had that feeling tito was getting schooled, fans know the feeling at lease once when u know ur fighter is getting whooped. but yes tito lost

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            • #76
              Originally posted by No10Point View Post
              I have rewatched and rewatched this fight.
              I give De La Hoya 9 of the 12 rounds. The thing here to know is that DLH had declarred this his retirement fight.
              That means the promoters were loosing their
              biggest cash cow. They had to do something to prolong the revenue stream. Trinidad just happened to be the person they chose to be the "next". A more recent occurence of this would be Dawson/Johnson. Johnson is the old man out. They will not put large sums of money behind him plus they already had a BIG fight with Tarver.

              wtf are you talking about? When did De La Hoya announce his retirement after that fight or before it?

              He was in his prime?

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Ishy Aytan View Post
                I actually thought it was a great performance by Oscar leading up to th 10th round.

                But add the rounds up, which fighter would you give more rounds too?

                I think Oscar was scared later on of that Trinidad left hook. When Trinidad started throwing the right to open up the left, i think Oscar thought '**** this, i'm staying away from that'!

                Its true, i think Oscar won the fight, but he blew it and should have won more easily.
                I don't think Oscar blew anything. He made a conscience decision to stop fighting and just move, move, move. Maybe in the last round that's acceptable. But the last how many? Like we don't score those? And contrary to what people say here, I don't think he swept the first 6-8 rounds either. Even HBO - Network of the Golden Boy - had it a one point fight. it was a close fight. One person wanted it more and deserved to win.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Kevin Jesus View Post
                  Oscar's corner told him to run. All Oscar did was listen to his corner.
                  No they didn't. Why would a corner ever tell a fighter, "ok, run!" They told him to be careful and continue to box. He chose to run.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                    I don't think Oscar blew anything. He made a conscience decision to stop fighting and just move, move, move. Maybe in the last round that's acceptable. But the last how many? Like we don't score those? And contrary to what people say here, I don't think he swept the first 6-8 rounds either. Even HBO - Network of the Golden Boy - had it a one point fight. it was a close fight. One person wanted it more and deserved to win.
                    Dude this people dont know **** on how to score a fight.

                    DLH wasnt landing anything, beside his jab a couple of times.

                    He was hitting air with is 10 sec flurries at the end of the rounds.

                    I saw the fight a draw, but DLH, didnt deserve to win, after his display of the second version of the Boston marathon!!!!!

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                    • #80
                      I had it 8-4 for DLH.

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