if YOU had a vote..would gatti,tarver get into the hall of fame??

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  • Dan...
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    #51
    Originally posted by warp1432
    Tarver's noteable wins:
    -Roy Jones twice
    -Glen Johnson
    -Clinton Woods
    -Montel Griffin
    -Reggie Johnson
    -Eric Harding
    -Elvir Muriqi

    Those are not terrible names at all. His big losses are what even makes this questionable, but his wins is pretty much everyone who Jones and DM didn't beat plus some who they didn't beat. I don't see how based off wins you can say no.

    He was also a skilled fighter. Obviously Gatti is not going into the hall imo.
    LOL, you really think they are not going to put Gatti in the HOF? Seriously?

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      #52
      Originally posted by danc1984
      LOL, you really think they are not going to put Gatti in the HOF? Seriously?
      Well they'll probably put him in, what I meant is that he's undeserving.

      I actually wouldn't be surprised though, if they do turn him down. It's what's right after all.

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        #53
        I don't believe either one of them earned their stripes to get into the HOF. If I had to choose, then I have to go with Gatti.

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          #54
          Originally posted by warp1432
          Well they'll probably put him in, what I meant is that he's undeserving.

          I actually wouldn't be surprised though, if they do turn him down. It's what's right after all.
          Ok, cool.

          There is no way he isn't going in though, just saying.

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            #55
            Originally posted by danc1984
            Ok, cool.

            There is no way he isn't going in though, just saying.
            Exactly!! The hall of fame is for those who made an impact in the sport. Gatti was not elite, but in the late 90's and into the new millennium, he was the lifeblood of the sport and brought in more casual fans than anyone.

            4 Fights of the year and many runner ups. He was one of the most exciting fighters to ever wear gloves. He is the epitome of blood and sweat.

            He is a lock. The hall of fame is not about pure talent. It is about what truly represents the sport in the most positive light.

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              #56
              Originally posted by deanrw
              Exactly!! The hall of fame is for those who made an impact in the sport. Gatti was not elite, but in the late 90's and into the new millennium, he was the lifeblood of the sport and brought in more casual fans than anyone.

              4 Fights of the year and many runner ups. He was one of the most exciting fighters to ever wear gloves. He is the epitome of blood and sweat.

              He is a lock. The hall of fame is not about pure talent. It is about what truly represents the sport in the most positive light.
              Great post. I agree with all of it.

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                #57
                Originally posted by deanrw
                Exactly!! The hall of fame is for those who made an impact in the sport. Gatti was not elite, but in the late 90's and into the new millennium, he was the lifeblood of the sport and brought in more casual fans than anyone.

                4 Fights of the year and many runner ups. He was one of the most exciting fighters to ever wear gloves. He is the epitome of blood and sweat.

                He is a lock. The hall of fame is not about pure talent. It is about what truly represents the sport in the most positive light.

                Tarver has better wins in bigger fights. That's a positive thing.
                Hall of fame should be based on merit and a couple of slugfests with a pretty good not great fighter that Gatti had is great for entertainment, but Tarver fought and beat better people.

                It's not even an argument.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by jreckoning
                  Tarver has better wins in bigger fights. That's a positive thing.
                  Hall of fame should be based on merit and a couple of slugfests with a pretty good not great fighter that Gatti had is great for entertainment, but Tarver fought and beat better people.

                  It's not even an argument.
                  It is.

                  It depends what you interpret the Hall to mean. If it is contribution to the sport then how is Gatti not more deserving than ***n Tarver?

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by danc1984
                    It is.

                    It depends what you interpret the Hall to mean. If it is contribution to the sport then how is Gatti not more deserving than ***n Tarver?
                    How is winning championships not contributing to the sport?

                    You're making this a popularity contest. Put in guys that are trainers and donated money to the sport, but don't act like Gatti did anything to merit being great.

                    He entertained people. so frickin what. Emmanuel Augustus does too.

                    But Tarver's accomplishhments in the ring dwarf Gatti's and you know it.


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                      #60
                      Originally posted by jreckoning
                      Tarver has better wins in bigger fights. That's a positive thing.
                      Hall of fame should be based on merit and a couple of slugfests with a pretty good not great fighter that Gatti had is great for entertainment, but Tarver fought and beat better people.

                      It's not even an argument.
                      I'm not saying Tarver does not belong in there. he has some good accomplishments. I can guarantee you though that in 20 years, Gatti will still be remembered. Will Tarver be remembered?

                      The Hall of fame does base inductee's on accomplishments also. It is just not tied exclusively to that one area though. Gatti is the warrior poster boy, with a heart 10 miles high. That is the type of fighter who gets remembered more fondly than anyone. Tarver accomplished a lot, but he never grabbed the limelight like Gatti did.

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