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Klitschko: "I'll Punish Haye Slow, Then Knock Him Out"
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Originally posted by Carlisle View PostHe had trouble with Sanders because Sanders had fast hands and rushed him. There was nothing special about Sanders.. he just used speed and bust Vlads ass. Haye has both SPEED, POWER and ATHLETICISM. Vlad's toast.
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Originally posted by Dave Rado View PostThinks? Wlad is the overwhelming favourite to win, where on earth did you get that idea from?
Hopes? While two brothers dominate the division there can never be a lineal champion, plus a lot of people find Wlad boring to watch, and find Haye exciting to watch. But most of them very much doubt whether Haye will win. He has a chance though, because of his speed.
but then again I had Pav beating Hop, Jones beating Calzaghe and Winky beating Williams! Not a good streak.... but hey sometimes I go with the heart.... (Jones Calzaghe)
Anyway I hope Haye actually "DESTROYS" him ENZO "I told you so" MACC style. Brings something to look forward to later this year!
Maybe we'll actually get "bad blood" aka "I want to eat your children" talk and bring back the Shyt talking madness! I miss that..... lol This is fighting, bring back the hate... as bad as that sounds lol....
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Jab, jab, right
I like Haye, but, IMO, he has a very low chance to beat Wladimir (whom i like also).
He deserves all the credit in the world to be the one who brings some interest to the division.
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Originally posted by Zarco View Postmore like haye will knock you the f out ya *****
P.S. It is interesting to me, why do people think that the guy, who just came from cruiserweight division can easily knock an experienced HW champ out?
I mean, yeh, he did great job in >200, but in 200+ he only managed to knock some bum out, and than showed very few in terms of punching power against an opponent who`s durability was far from being the best ...
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Originally posted by Carlisle View PostSize does not win in boxing... boxing wins in boxing. Vlad has never fought anyone as athletic as Haye. Haye is much faster than Vlad and that will be the biggest advantage. Haye has SPEED and POWER. Those two advantages are bigger advantages than the size advantage Vlad has. Haye is going to completely destroy Vlad. Vlad is good against big, slow opponents that he can size up and take out. He had trouble with Sanders because Sanders had fast hands and rushed him. There was nothing special about Sanders.. he just used speed and bust Vlads ass. Haye has both SPEED, POWER and ATHLETICISM. Vlad's toast.
Many forget that Corrie Sanders was a much harder hitter than Haye... He had a one punch knock out power, and Haye doesn`t have it...
P.S. Did you see much in Haye`s defense which will help him avoid that jab? I`m asking because Haye told that Barret hit with his jab as hard as cruisers hit with their straights, and Wlad is , probably, hitting with his jab harder than Barret with his straight. Will his movement help him to avoid that jab through the fight???
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Originally posted by ~Alar~ View PostBet 1k on it?
P.S. It is interesting to me, why do people think that the guy, who just came from cruiserweight division can easily knock an experienced HW champ out?
I mean, yeh, he did great job in >200, but in 200+ he only managed to knock some bum out, and than showed very few in terms of punching power against an opponent who`s durability was far from being the best ...
But he did show good power against Barrett, and very good speed. He knocked him down 5 times, the same number of times as Wlad did; and ended it more quickly than Wlad did. He was also wild some of the time, though, and got buzzed. He can't afford to be wild against Wlad, and he knows it.
Barrett's durability isn't particularly bad. He was stopped quickly in a freak bad performance against Couser but avenged that in equally decisive fashion in his next fight. He has beaten several touted prospects, such as Dominick Guinn (and he murdered Tye Fields). He went the distance with Rahman in 2005, when Rahman was still a force, and lasted 11 rounds with Valuev. He also fought one of his better fights against Haye and was clearly motivated. His boxrec rating is #26, which is respectable. He's no A-lister, but he's a respectable first opponent at Heavyweight.Last edited by Dave Rado; 04-16-2009, 03:19 PM.
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Originally posted by Dave Rado View PostBarret's durability isn't particularly bad. He was stopped quickly in a freak bad performance against Couser but avenged that in equally decisive fashion in his next fight. He has beaten several touted prospects, such as Dominick Guinn (and he murdered Tye Fields). He went the distance with Rahman in 2005, when Rahman was still a force, and lasted 11 rounds with Valuev. His boxrec rating is #26, which is respectable. He's no A-lister, but he's a respectable first opponent at Heavyweight.
He is a VERY GOOD boxer. He had some good fights, and Haye deserves credit for knocking him out.
But what i saw in the Barret-Haye fight didn`t make me feel worried for Wladimir... It is just completely different level, as i`ve told above.
IMO Haye was great at cruiserweight, and if he stayed there he could establish himself as the greatest cruiser AT... But as he decided to move up, he did a big mistake... He will have some good wins at HW, he is probably capable of capturing the WBA title from one of it... God knows how many champions... But he can`t handle Klitschkos right now... Maybe later when (if) he improves...
P.S. Always eager to be surprised
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