Joe Frazier Is The Greatest, Not Muhammad Ali!

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  • poofdatruth
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    Joe Frazier Is The Greatest, Not Muhammad Ali!

    HBO Thrilla Review: Frazier Is The Greatest, Not Ali
    by Ultimate Boxing Fan
    Apr 14, 2009 12:30 am

    Just finished watching for the second time HBO's Thrilla In Manila docu
    telling the story in Joe Frazier's perspective.

    Some revealing highlights:

    1. Ali belittled and assassinated Frazier's character in ways unimaginable.
    It gives me an impression that the docu also seemed to tell that Ali feared
    Frazier so much that he tries to break his spirit using dirty pre-game tactics.

    2. Joe Frazier was a good and respectful person undeserving of Ali's dirty
    out-of-the-ring uncalled for remarks.

    3. Joe Frazier is the real winner of the Thrilla In Manila when during the break
    before the last and final 15th round, Ali wanted to quit. On the other corner,
    Frazier's trainer Eddie Futch (Roach's mentor) beat Ali's quitting by some
    seconds when he decided to throw in the towel for Frazier despite Joe's
    protestations. Joe's eyes are almost shut that he couldnt see anymore.

    4. Nobody knew but him and his trainer Futch that Joe has one ***********al
    eye he got from an accident in the 60's. His only good eye was almost
    completely shut in the Thrilla's 15th round that he couldnt see Ali's punches.
    Ali was exhausted while Frazier is still strong but just couldnt see.

    5. Joe Frazier is sending messages that Ali's sickness (Parkinsons) and sufferings
    now was caused by him.

    The docu was done perfectly and the script was done in a suspenseful way.
    I was hooked from the start to finish. A rating of perfect 10!!!

    The Filipinos booed Muhammad Ali during his introduction to his surprise.
    Most Filipinos cheered for the underdog who was maligned and disrespected.

    The HBO production tells us that the greatest fighter of all time is not Muhammad
    Ali but the gentleman Joe Frazier. Ali is all talk and a big mouth and a dirty tactician
    outside the ring.

    And I agree.

    Joe Frazier is greater than Muhammad Ali.

    I can now see Ali in the faces of Floyd Mayweather Jr and his father Floyd Sr.

    They say theyre the greatest.

    But history will be the final judge.

    God bless Joe Frazier - the greatest!
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    #2
    That's not written by Ultimateboxa is it?

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    • poofdatruth
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      #3
      Originally posted by Silencers
      That's not written by Ultimateboxa is it?
      I got this from Pacland and posted by Ultimate boxing fan.

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      • deliveryman
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        Ali wasn't about to quit, I think you misinterepted that.

        Laying down in exhaustion after you learn that the most excruciating fight you've ever been in is over , isn't the same as "about to quit". Ali had more pride and heart than that, plus the adrenaline would of kept him going.

        But yes, the way Ali treated Frazier was absolutely de****able. Aside from being a great boxer, Ali was a womanizing, cheating, arrogant prick.

        I'm glad he ended up with Parkinson's. Karma is a *****.

        Regardless of personal character, Ali has accomplished more than Frazier has, not to mention beat Frazier 2/3, and therefore should undoubtedly be ranked higher than Smokin' Joe.
        Last edited by deliveryman; 04-14-2009, 06:05 AM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by deliveryman
          I'm glad he ended up with Parkinson's. Karma is a *****.
          Far from an Ali apologist, but - WTF?

          What is it about people that they need to have such a bitter stake in others' beef? If Joe wants to feel that way, it's his business. But what does Ali having Parkinson's mean to you?

          If it was karma you'd be smart to just let the giver of karma do His work and stay quiet, lest He comes looking for you next.

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            #6
            Muhammad Ali was not a quiter, he fought Ken Norton 10 rounds with a broken jaw, that's insane.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Man In Black
              Far from an Ali apologist, but - WTF?

              What is it about people that they need to have such a bitter stake in others' beef? If Joe wants to feel that way, it's his business. But what does Ali having Parkinson's mean to you?

              If it was karma you'd be smart to just let the giver of karma do His work and stay quiet, lest He comes looking for you next.

              All I'm saying is that he got what he deserved. He was a miserable human being.

              I have no personal vendetta towards him, but that doesn't change the fact what he did to others, including his three wives.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Man In Black
                Far from an Ali apologist, but - WTF?

                What is it about people that they need to have such a bitter stake in others' beef? If Joe wants to feel that way, it's his business. But what does Ali having Parkinson's mean to you?

                If it was karma you'd be smart to just let the giver of karma do His work and stay quiet, lest He comes looking for you next.
                you seriously cant say he didn't have it coming to him.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sin City
                  you seriously cant say he didn't have it coming to him.
                  I find ordinary sinners talking all high and mighty about sins for which karma has long been dispensed kinda cowardly. Why, don't you?

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                    #10
                    Nobody deserves parkinson, i don't wish that to my worst ennemy. Deliveryman went too far; i know Ali was a prick but you can't say he deserve that.
                    Panama Lewis would deserve it, though.

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