Arthur Abraham should he...

**MANGLER** · 04-13-2009, 04:53 PM

He ain't gonna give up his belt for a Pwill fight, even tho I'd love to see him do it. I'm sure he'll do the mando then press fro Pavlik in the fall.

**Hityawitdat** · 04-13-2009, 04:54 PM

Yeah, he's definitely not gonna give up the belt.

**egreezy** · 04-13-2009, 05:02 PM

Does he really need his belt if he desperately needs to move to 168? And he just fought 2 mandatories in a row with Marquez and Simon I believe. He may not have to take Lorenzo immediately.

**S.G.** · 04-13-2009, 05:03 PM

Pavlik

I don't want Williams to rush into a fight with Pavlik or Abraham

break himself into Middleweight and Jr Middleweight first

**MANGLER** · 04-13-2009, 05:06 PM

Pavlik is the champ at 160. In a perfect world for us fans he'd tell the IBF to go screw, fight Pwill in what'd more or less be an eliminator, and the winner would fight Pavlik after that. But I just don't see AA droppin his strap to face Pwill. I'd watch Pwill against either Pavlik or AA if it happened of course, but I think both would KO him. I really want him to go to 154 and clean up.

**egreezy** · 04-13-2009, 06:07 PM

Can anybody verify if Simon was a voluntary defense or mandatory defense? I really would rather see Pavlik-Abraham @168 where both fighters can be comfortable. I think the bragging rights are more important the unification. And I think Abraham would wants the fame/attention from beating a Williams and not so much Pavlik.

**Pullcounter** · 04-13-2009, 09:20 PM

Originally posted by egreezy

Forget his mandatory match with Giovanni Lorenzo to take on Paul Williams @160. Right now he is bigger than Kelly Pavlik. And prolonging his move to 168 for 2 more fights could damage his body and increase his chance of a loss to Pavlik at the end of the year. Would it be wiser to fight Williams now, and wait for Pavlik to jump to 168 because when Abraham leaves theres no meaningful fights left him besides Sturm.

go for pavlik, but if he can't get him, fight williams

**Owlzfan84** · 04-13-2009, 09:23 PM

he honestly needs to move up in weight. He's starting to look very drained.

**Bushbaby** · 04-13-2009, 09:29 PM

If the Punisher was a champ of any sort at 160 he would unify for sure!!!

Arthur Abraham should he...