You're all taking way too highly about this Williams win...

[lennie paz]

this is the dumbest post i read today.

Couldn't agree more.

[MANGLER]

Pwill deserves shine for the Winky win, but I still say he belongs at 154.

[Sutekh uvdabrix]

pw has MUSCLE MEMORY as opposed bulk

he probrably does pilates and yoga and things like that

[dc6112]

Williams is the greatest fighter in the world, now.

154 is where he should be fighting now to be considered P4P. Until he beats a 6' dude with pop he is not P4P top 5. I will give him top 10 for now. Until he fights Kelly.

[aristotlemoses]

pavlik and williams are the same height i think williams might even be a hair taller. he just looks way taller than 6'2 and half

[AKATheMack]

Pavlik also has a high punch output not as high as Williams but Pavlik has the ability to knock out anyone he touches and PWills defense is not world class. Pavlik Kos him after about 8 competitive rounds.

[RightCross94]

winky has declined but williams would have given him trouble even in his prime

williams will beat pavlik if they fight. he has the chin to handle kelly's power, the output to outwork kelly, and i think he has the power to KO him too. Kelly's chin is good but not great, he was out on his feet vs taylor, hurt several times vs b-hop and dropped in some earlier fights too i think

Williams is also better skilled than kelly, quicker and sharper with his shots

[RightCross94]

Pavlik also has a high punch output not as high as Williams but Pavlik has the ability to knock out anyone he touches and PWills defense is not world class. Pavlik Kos him after about 8 competitive rounds.

Pavlik doesnt have one punch knockout power, he's an aggressive accumulation puncher. He definitely won't knock Paul out.

[Pullcounter]

Williams fought a guy who hadn't fought in roughly two years. A guy who's 37, is as soft a puncher as an elite can be, and who had a huge disadvantage in height. I would expect Pavlik to do much of the same to WW, but maybe KO him instead. THIS Winky, not a prime Winky. Now, Williams has a solid name under his belt, but it's only a name. We all know that wasn't the real Winky. Winky didn't even have a tune up. It was about money.
As for fighting Pavlik... Pavlik is taller than PW. All those huge height and reach advantages Paul has had his whole career are gone. And he's fighting a guy with high out put and better than avg. power. I need to see him fight a guy over 6' with talent to be convinced he can take on Pavlik.
AA is way over rated IMO, the guy gets all this credit for going 12 rds with ****balls like Lajuan Simon while Pavlik fights guys like Hopkins and Taylor, and then gets **** for fighting his mandatories in between. The way people overrate AA is unreal He did knock out Miranda, but after 16 rds and a broken jaw, and even then Miranda was damaged goods because it took Kelly 7 rds. to destroy Miranda's career. Maybe AA can be beat by Williams now. He's shorter and has the shell defense. His power might be his saving grace.
Vs. Pavlik- KO loss, as of today.
vs. Abraham- Williams UD, as of today.

and the excuses begin