Some Perspective

[dc6112]

Williams fought a guy who hadn't fought in roughly two years. A guy who's 37, is as soft a puncher as an elite can be, and who had a huge disadvantage in height. I would expect Pavlik to do much of the same to WW, but maybe KO him instead. THIS Winky, not a prime Winky. Now, Williams has a solid name under his belt, but it's only a name. We all know that wasn't the real Winky. Winky didn't even have a tune up. It was about money.
As for fighting Pavlik... Pavlik is taller than PW. All those huge height and reach advantages Paul has had his whole career are gone. And he's fighting a guy with high out put and better than avg. power. I need to see him fight a guy over 6' with talent to be convinced he can take on Pavlik.
AA is way over rated IMO, the guy gets all this credit for going 12 rds with ****balls like Lajuan Simon while Pavlik fights guys like Hopkins and Taylor, and then gets **** for fighting his mandatories in between. The way people overrate AA is unreal He did knock out Miranda, but after 16 rds and a broken jaw, and even then Miranda was damaged goods because it took Kelly 7 rds. to destroy Miranda's career. Maybe AA can be beat by Williams now. He's shorter and has the shell defense. His power might be his saving grace.
Vs. Pavlik- KO loss, as of today.
vs. Abraham- Williams UD, as of today.

[dc6112]

you all need to calm down on the Williams win. If it was a KO I would be much more impressed.

[hishaam15]

Williams fought a guy who hadn't fought in roughly two years. A guy who's 37, is as soft a puncher as an elite can be, and who had a huge disadvantage in height. I would expect Pavlik to do much of the same to WW, but maybe KO him instead. THIS Winky, not a prime Winky. Now, Williams has a solid name under his belt, but it's only a name. We all know that wasn't the real Winky. Winky didn't even have a tune up. It was about money.
As for fighting Pavlik... Pavlik is taller than PW. All those huge height and reach advantages Paul has had his whole career are gone. And he's fighting a guy with high out put and better than avg. power. I need to see him fight a guy over 6' with talent to be convinced he can take on Pavlik.
AA is way over rated IMO, the guy gets all this credit for going 12 rds with ****balls like Lajuan Simon while Pavlik fights guys like Hopkins and Taylor, and then gets **** for fighting his mandatories in between. The way people overrate AA is unreal He did knock out Miranda, but after 16 rds and a broken jaw, and even then Miranda was damaged goods because it took Kelly 7 rds. to destroy Miranda's career. Maybe AA can be beat by Williams now. He's shorter and has the shell defense. His power might be his saving grace.
Vs. Pavlik- KO loss, as of today.
vs. Abraham- Williams UD, as of today.

Winky actually was going to have a tune-up in February, and was training for it before he got injured. He then accepted to fight PW. So no, he wasnt as ring-rusted as yall think

[dc6112]

Winky actually was going to have a tune-up in February, and was training for it before he got injured. He then accepted to fight PW. So no, he wasnt as ring-rusted as yall think

Well, anyone can train. But how hungry was he when he trained? Plus training isn't being in the fight game full time. James Toney trains, and you're gonna tell me he's as ready as he should be for his fights the last 5 years?

[hishaam15]

Well, anyone can train. But how hungry was he when he trained? Plus training isn't being in the fight game full time. James Toney trains, and you're gonna tell me he's as ready as he should be for his fights the last 5 years?

You cant really conpare Toney with Winky though.. Winky made the weight comfortabely, and looked OK (not at his best), but was still good. Pwill definitely can make an impact at 160

[Run]

I personally think Williams would beat the **** out of Pavlik

He's on a different tier as a fighter man.

Pavlik is closer to a crowd pleasing brawler, he's not A class material.



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[Run]

You cant really conpare Toney with Winky though.. Winky made the weight comfortabely, and looked OK (not at his best), but was still good. Pwill definitely can make an impact at 160

Wink looked ****in dope.

That was all Williams and he's the second best P4P fighter hands down.

Nobody can be convinced otherwise.



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[-Antonio-]

Abraham beats Williams if he makes the weight comfortably.

[P.WILL]

Winky has never been dominated like that