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I'm saying that he didn't in 2005, when they were both Jnr Welters. After the Collazo fight he did, because he realised then he couldn't cut it at 147, and he moved back down to 140. But the myth that Floyd ever tried to make a fight with him at 140 in 2005, or that Hatton didn't want the fight at that time, is just that, a myth, as is documented in great detail in the link I posted.
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Father and business manager openly admitted they turned down the chance to at least negotiation for a Mayweather fight in 2004. "That was the one fight, style wise, which I thought we needed a few more fights before taking," said father Ray Hatton. "But now Ricky has gone up to the top level with Tszyu and got the big win, there's no-one I wouldn't put him in with and not feel confident that he'd beat."Comment
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So, Dave,
Ray Hatton admits that they turned down the fight...but you won't??
Huh?Comment
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Co-Mutha****in-SignSheesh. Why am I talking to you? You're not really informed about the sport. No offense.
A history lesson. And this was on televised TV, so it's pretty easy for you to verify.
After Floyd beat Zab, he was looking for his next fight. Everyone expected it to be Oscar. In fact, Oscar had called a press conference for Atlantic City in June. That was the same weekend as Hopkins-Tarver. Seasoned fans will remember that was the same night that Arum had the competing PPV for Cotto-malignaggi.
Anyway, Team May is expecting to fight Oscar. As early as September because Sept is some type of Mexican holiday. Oscar announces that he "doesn't want to fight this fall", and he wouldn't be ready until the next year. Ouch. Surprises everybody.
The buzz becomes Floyd-Shane. Team May is reaching out to GBP/Jin. They're talking. People are excited about the prospect because they saw Zab trouble Floyd early with his speed. HBO even books a date for the fall. Nov 8th, i believe. After Shane knocks out a very shot vargas, Merchant does the post-fight. He asks Shane: will you accept the mayweather offer? Shane says "No. I want to go on vacation, and I'm getting some dental work". THIS WAS ON NATIONAL HBO. Everybody was, like, WTF?? People said that it was a clear duck. While others said that he stepped aside knowing that Oscar wanted Floyd next year.
Anyway, Floyd is JACKED UP at that point. Left with no viable opponent. Gatti had some crappy belt at WW. Clearly, Floyd couldn't unify vs Gatti. Nobody wanted to see that bloodbath again. Gatti is favored over Baldomir. Shockingly, Tata knocks Gatti out. Boom. Floyd lucks the phuck up. baldo is now the Ring Magazine champion, and Floyd is ranked #1 at WW.
Baldomir had beat Zab, and KO'd Gatti in a seven-month period. HBO approves him as the opponent for Floyd's fall PPV date. Calls it "Pretty Risky". Fight does well. 340K PPV buys, and about 10,000 gate. May makes a bit over $10 mil.
Note: floyd had bought out of his TR contract for $750K. At the time, TR and GBP did not do business and were not even on speaking terms. PBF got out so he could fight Oscar. So, he hired GTP to a free-agent, one-off contract to promote "Pretty Risky".
During the fall of that year - and before Floyd's fight - we hear that Shane is in negotiation for a fight. WTF again. Shane fights Collazo in an empty MB Events Center for under $2 mill.
Right after Christmas, the final details for "The World Awaits" are finalized, and both May and DLH head down to the SuperBowl to begin doing media to promote the fight.
If I am remembering any part of this incorrectly, I invite an experienced poster to correct.Comment
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Dogg.. you just got owned... just go away and live to fight another day... HE ducked him dude.... Don't try and use all these number tactics with the weights... SHANE ducked FLOYD... WHO gives a damn at what weight.. same shane... same floyd. now pack up and go home!!!I'm saying that he didn't in 2005, when they were both Jnr Welters. After the Collazo fight he did, because he realised then he couldn't cut it at 147, and he moved back down to 140. But the myth that Floyd ever tried to make a fight with him at 140 in 2005, or that Hatton didn't want the fight at that time, is just that, a myth, as is documented in great detail in the link I posted.Comment
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FROM DOGHOUSE BOXING: (after the Tszyu and Gatti fights)
Coyote Duran: I can see how that would work in the end but you'd think now that Ricky Hatton would feel like he was wasting his time against a Carlos Maussa since he beat the real champion.
Frank Warren: I would've thought so. I mean, prior to that fight, I had offered him the (WBO titlist Miguel) Cotto fight. I had offered him (WBC titlist) Floyd Mayweather. Even Don King and I spoke about (Undisputed Welterweight Champion) Zab Judah. But when he went out to Atlantic City to see the Maussa fight, he wanted the Maussa fight. To me, it's a belt and I can understand, as a fighter, that he'd want that belt, but let's be honest about it. Kostya Tszyu vacated that title and Ricky Hatton beat Kostya Tszyu. So, on the same list as Joe Calzaghe, he was the #1 by Ring magazine. Who cares about that (WBA belt)?
Coyote Duran: Right. Hatton doesn't need Maussa's belt. He's the man.
Frank Warren: I agree with you! I agree, but I was willing to make the fight. I spoke to Pat English (of Main Events). We had agreed terms for the fight and in the meantime, Pat English was advised not to deal with me and that I couldn't deliver Hatton.
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