who is the greatest middlewieght?

[portuge puncher]

who is the greatest middlewieght of all time out of the ones shown in the poll, if they had to face each other, who would be the one who would come out victorious?

[fallenloki]

Where is this poll you speak of?

[liam_48@msn.com]

Obviously Harry Greb couldnt really compete with Hagler or Monson because of the huge difference in time and evolution of boxing but, you have to take that out of the equation and base the decision on who dominated the most and beat the better opponents and i have to go with Harry Greb the man beat Gene Tunney!?

[hookoutofhell]

im gonna go with marvin alot of fighters such as harry greg deserve big props and their achievements stand out but i dont really know alot about them and they fought in a completely different era.

for me its hagler, awesome stamina, a great chin and very good punching power. reigned the division with an iron fist and foguht a good level of comp.

the loss to SRL is the only blemish on a fine career and even then i think if he hadn't been messing around with the orthodox stance and if he had pushed for 15 rounds he would have won.

[portuge puncher]

stanley ketchel was another good one, knocked down jack johnson, out of his 52 wins, 49 were by KO

[TheGreatA]

Obviously Harry Greb couldnt really compete with Hagler or Monson because of the huge difference in time and evolution of boxing but, you have to take that out of the equation and base the decision on who dominated the most and beat the better opponents and i have to go with Harry Greb the man beat Gene Tunney!?

To be honest from what I've seen, Gene Tunney is every bit as evolved as Hagler and Monzon were yet Greb handed him a beating in their first fight and arguably won three of their five fights.

Greb doesn't look amazing on the film that we have of him but I wouldn't judge him based on a couple of clips of him playing around for the cameras.

The problem with rating Greb as a middleweight is that he often fought above 160 lbs. Today he would've most likely been a super middleweight since 168 was the weight he usually fought at.

[portuge puncher]

my personal pic is carlos mozon (my avatar lol). he fought some tough fighters, he had the tools to beat anyone on the list. he new how to fight boxers (emil griffith) punchers (a prime bennie briscoe) swarmers(rodrigo valdez). plus a granite chin, and good power.

[S A M U R A I]

stanley ketchel was another good one, knocked down jack johnson, out of his 52 wins, 49 were by KO

Ketchel was a monster, but I can't take that knockdown seriously at all because the fight was fixed and Jack wasn't expecting to be hit like that. It was probably more of a surprise than being hurt. In a serious fight, I doubt Jack would have been knocked down. He'd have played with Stanley for however long he felt like it, then asked the audience when they wanted him KO'd. On cue, he would have KO'd Stan.

But yeah, Ketchel was something else man.



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[MELLY-MEL...]

hagler............

[QuCongee]

Definitely Hagler. I think he's the greatest MW and it's pretty clear cut.

Robinson was a WW.