HBO's newest Pacman greatest hit downplays his P4P Status

**P.WILL** · 04-10-2009, 08:52 PM

whats so great?
he beat a bum david diaz
in my eyes lost to marquez
and beat a weight drained de la hoya

**optkliluzn** · 04-10-2009, 09:06 PM

You cant downplay a list with defeats in names like these......De La Hoya, JM Marquez, Erik Morales, Marco Antonio Barrera, and David Diaz! Come on now

Originally posted by ELPacman

Firstly with Lampley saying it's intelligently debatable(it can be, but w/e). Then consistently showing Manny take a good beating in his Marquez fights which I guess they wanted to show he is beatable and possibly did lose those fights. They also mention in the Morales fight how Manny's youth and speed finally beat Morales in the 3rd bout. I mean yes it's all true, but you gotta look deeper than that if you want to talk about his achievements. Not anyone could of manhandled Morales the way Manny did. Also, yes Marquez gave 2 awesome bouts with Manny, but look how well he does against everyone else. Marquez gives Manny hell, but so does Manny giving Marquez hell. They are eventually matched. Just check it out,

**RiZО** · 04-10-2009, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by ELPacman

Firstly with Lampley saying it's intelligently debatable(it can be, but w/e). Then consistently showing Manny take a good beating in his Marquez fights which I guess they wanted to show he is beatable and possibly did lose those fights. They also mention in the Morales fight how Manny's youth and speed finally beat Morales in the 3rd bout. I mean yes it's all true, but you gotta look deeper than that if you want to talk about his achievements. Not anyone could of manhandled Morales the way Manny did. Also, yes Marquez gave 2 awesome bouts with Manny, but look how well he does against everyone else. Marquez gives Manny hell, but so does Manny giving Marquez hell. They are eventually matched. Just check it out,

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**Steak** · 04-10-2009, 09:12 PM

they gave the most exciting moments of the fight. aside from the knockdown and that left hand Manny hurt Marquez with, Marquez had most of the flashy moments.

I dont see whats the problem. its what happened in the fight.

although to be fair to Pacquiao, Marquez is one of the worst style matchups ever for him, and hes fought back very well.
although I did have him losing the 2nd fight.

**ILLuminato** · 04-10-2009, 09:13 PM

The problem is that he doesn't fight like a *****. He fights coming forwards, that's why he's not universally #1. Marquez does.

**MoneyMayFan** · 04-10-2009, 09:13 PM

and?.............................

**J.B.moneY.** · 04-10-2009, 09:16 PM

when you look at manny's resume, its a hall of fame resume based on the "names" he has beaten.....but the actually wins of the past 3 to 4 years havent been that great overall....but i think manny is worthy of being p4p#1

**THe TRiNiTY** · 04-10-2009, 09:16 PM

I don't see anything wrong with the video. At all.

They showed back and forth action with Marquez, which happened. They showed him beating an older Morales, which happened and they showed highlights from his fights.

The closest you could get to saying something was wrong, was the 'intelligent debate', comment about his p4p status. But if A LOT of critics think Marquez won the second fight, you'd HAVE to say it's up for debate, atleast.

**egreezy** · 04-10-2009, 09:17 PM

I guess you only follow Pacman and haven't seen anybody else's greatest hits because they show everyones best and worst moments in these clips.

HBO's newest Pacman greatest hit downplays his P4P Status