Looking back on Holyfield-tyson 1, and 2

**dannyl15** · 04-10-2009, 04:17 PM

Yeah that was a good point, but not an excuse to bite someones year off. Tyson lost his sanity in there. I feel for Tyson though, my favorite heavyweight of all time and one of my favorite boxers of all time, prime Tyson trained with such discipline, determination and ferociousness.

**MoneyMayFan** · 04-10-2009, 04:18 PM

Tyson couldnt beat opponents who were not scared of him

**MANGLER** · 04-10-2009, 04:23 PM

The headbutt thing was legitimate, but that wasn't the decidin factor in him losin the 1st fight. Holy just had him pegged imo.

**Boogie Nights** · 04-10-2009, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by MoneyMayFan

Tyson couldnt beat opponents who were not scared of him

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**ИATAS** · 04-10-2009, 04:29 PM

yeah you can see how frustrating that must have been, because in his eyes the loss for the first fight the headbutts were a big factor. Tyson says he kinda went black after one headbutt in the first fight, and then gets butted several more times in the first fight. Then, all that time to reflect, finally the rematch and right away he's butted again, bleeding, butted again. He snaps, off goes the ear!

An excuse, no, but you can see and understand what led him to that point, and like Tyson said, it was no longer a boxing match at that point, it became a street fight.

Good post.

**Boogie Nights** · 04-10-2009, 04:30 PM

Originally posted by Down4TheCount

after watching the new documentary and hearing mike narrate the fight almost , you can put yourself in his shoes and understand now why he did what he did . for years i never really could understand why anybody would do something like this. but seeing and knowing what i do now i complete understand. how the **** would you feel if this was happening to you and nothing being done about it.

" hes the taller man why is his head under my head ? " good ****ing point mike.

to holy's defence he described it as 2 guys moving forward, and headbutts with 2 guys clashing against each other are bound to happen.

Fair enough.

But my next question to evander is, why is it Mike was the one who ended up with cuts over his eyes in both fights?

Listen this is boxingscene.com. You gonna say anything like that, or you'll say that Evander fought a dirty fight (which he did) people are gonna call you a fanboy or a nuthugger. That's just the way it is.

And just to clear some things up, there are many ******s out there, who still say Holyfield beat the **** out of Tyson twice. He did beat him in the first fight, in the second he tried that **** again and got fouled in return. Simple.

**TheGreatA** · 04-10-2009, 04:30 PM

I understand why he did it but it was not acceptable by any means. Tyson himself said that a warrior should not lose discipline under any circumstances.

Tyson wasn't above using rough tactics either. Tyrell Biggs complained about his use of elbows and Tyson's response was to ask Biggs whether he would want another...

**Albert_Flange** · 04-10-2009, 04:31 PM

They were scared of him for a reason.
His speed and power mainly.
Tyson was on the slide before he went to prison and yet he was still a force when he returned.
IMO very few heavyweights would live the the Tyson who should up against Spinks and Holmes.
And i know Homes was past his prime when they fought but he was still good enough to go 12 with Holyfield 4 1/2 years later.

**ИATAS** · 04-10-2009, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by TheManchine

I understand why he did it but it was not acceptable by any means. Tyson himself said that a warrior should not lose discipline under any circumstances.

True, good point. If I'm not mistaken he got choked up when he said that, and was on the verge of crying. You can tell he was really upset with losing his composure even after all these years. That's not what Cus taught him to fight like he knows it.

Looking back on Holyfield-tyson 1, and 2