question for the klitschko haters

[Welter_Skelter]

statements like this is what gets them hated on......pure ignorance

The funny thing is... If you really examine it.. It's not so far fetched..

Tyson also had a very weak Division when he dominated.. His best wins coming against a faded champ and a Cruiserweight.. He lost fights he had no business losing also.. He has less successful title defenses and more title fight losses than Wlad..

Tyson just has the benefit of the American press behind him..

[Roger Mellie]

The funny thing is... If you really examine it.. It's not so far fetched..

Tyson also had a very weak Division when he dominated.. His best wins coming against a faded champ and a Cruiserweight.. He lost fights he had no business losing also.. He has less successful title defenses and more title fight losses than Wlad..

Tyson just has the benefit of the American press behind him..

The irony of him having the american press behind him is that he is a ****** convicted sex case!
That said,I can definitely see what welter is getting at though.

[Welter_Skelter]

The irony of him having the american press behind him is that he is a ****** convicted sex case!
That said,I can definitely see what welter is getting at though.

Good press bad press.. In America it equals the same thing.. and in fact it's almost better sometimes to be Infamous...

Tyson has reached "legend" status world wide.. It's not easy to dispel or suplant a legend.

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My only gripe is with their fans. Claiming they are the greatest ever is a joke.

Same here.....

[Roger Mellie]

Good press bad press.. In America it equals the same thing.. and in fact it's almost better sometimes to be Infamous...

Tyson has reached "legend" status world wide.. It's not easy to dispel or suplant a legend.

Sorry,Its not just the american press.One of his biggest fights was against spinks and he won that in emphatic fashion,but the rot set in not long after it and the long and the short of it is that Tyson wasted his talent and didnt have the courage or character to get himself back on track.The Klitschkos have made the best of what they have,but Wlad bores me to f.ucking tears! Vitali on the other hand is superb.

[Welter_Skelter]

Sorry,Its not just the american press.One of his biggest fights was against spinks and he won that in emphatic fashion,but the rot set in not long after it and the long and the short of it is that Tyson wasted his talent and didnt have the courage or character to get himself back on track.The Klitschkos have made the best of what they have,but Wlad bores me to f.ucking tears! Vitali on the other hand is superb.

"Boring" should not take away from his accomplishments.. and that is the problem.. Not liking how he wins should not detract from the fact he won.. or that he won by KO..
at the end of the day the point is to win.. and that he does..

The way to win is to Hit and not get hit.. and he does that extremely well..

Bernard Hopkins is as boring as fuck to watch.. Kelly Pavlik?? jab jab Right.. all fucking night long.. Winky Wright.. Jab Jab.. Cover Jab Cover.. All fucking night long.. yet they get respect anyway..

The problem with The Klits.. is that they get NO RESPECT.. and it's pretty glaring when other fighters who have Quit,Lost,Fought cautiously, Fought Boringly or have a Non crown pleasing style do NOT catch the same criticisms as the Klits do...

It seems the one or two bad things you can say about them seem to discredit the many good things you can say about them.. and NO OTHER boxer.. except maybe Floyd Mayweather has that problem..

[potatoes]

what could they have fought in their careers to make you think they are better?
they could have fought evander holyfield and mike tyson, albeit way past their primes, but big names dont necessarily translate to big wins.

in the future, klitschko's KO of david haye may mean nothing i fhe gest knocked out another 4 times. (very possible) however, right now it would be a very big win, and should always be considered a big win, as many peple consider haye a legitimate threat and a good fighter.

The brothers Klitschko have had successful careers based on good management and good luck. Their professionalism is beyond question and outside the ring they are everything you could ask from a champion. Inside the ring they are not so great.

[Roger Mellie]

The brothers Klitschko have had successful careers based on good management and good luck. Their professionalism is beyond question and outside the ring they are everything you could ask from a champion. Inside the ring they are not so great.

I just got a red k from ***** tunney who has put me on ignore!Getting a red k from you is like a badge of honour in this forum! So thanks for that you sick little aryan spastic!

[Leo Pradun]

The brothers Klitschko have had successful careers based on good management and good luck. Their professionalism is beyond question and outside the ring they are everything you could ask from a champion. Inside the ring they are not so great.

y is that? why arent they so good inside the ring? Most of their fights end in KO's?

[potatoes]

y is that? why arent they so good inside the ring? Most of their fights end in KO's?

Yes, but most of their fights have been easy. You should expect KO's because of whom they have been lucky enough to face. The greatness of a fighter is determined by the manner in which he deals with adversity. Neither Klitschko is very good at that, but Wladimir has shown in the past that he is one of the most vulnerable beltholders in the history of the division. If Dave Haye comes to fight you will see Wladimir fall apart yet again.