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  • #81
    Anyone know anything else about the rematches? Like who decides where the rematches would be or what the split would be? I'm guessing that will already be in the contract right?

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    • #82
      Originally posted by Johnny Rebel View Post
      Lewis always had rematch clauses and nobody had a problem with them. This contract is to ensure that Klit gets a rematch
      This isn't the problem though. A normal rematch clause is fine and usually expected. The absurd thing about this one is the fact that he is stating that he has to fight another fighter in the rematch clause! I can't understand that.

      Can you imagine if Oscar had said to Floyd when they were going to fight "If you beat me you have to fight Bernard Hopkins (because I know that you can't). I get to have another shot at you after that though as well if you just happen to beat him"?

      He has actually said that you have to fight another fighter in his own rematch clause. Wladimir having a rematch set in stone for himself is perfectly normal. Many, if not most, title fights have that in place. His rematch is stating that he has to fight a completely different fighter though as well as himself getting another crack at it. I can't believe it. It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in terms of negotiations and I can understand why Haye is letting it out now. He was always going to take the fight, but he wants to let everyone know what a pathetic pair of fighters these two are. I would too. Hopefully it will get everyone, apart from the rabid Klit fans obviously, on his side. He deserves it. This clause is a disgrace to boxing.

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      • #83
        i see some poeple dont get it...i can see a remach clause..its normal..but 2 ****ing rematch clauses(1 of which is an entirely differant fighter)))

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        • #84
          Originally posted by larryx View Post
          i see some poeple dont get it...i can see a remach clause..its normal..but 2 ****ing rematch clauses(1 of which is an entirely differant fighter)))
          I know man, **** is ridiculous!!!!!!!!!!!

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          • #85
            Haye - "I'll sign"
            Wlad - "Wait, but if I lose you have to fight my big brother" Thinks to himself, "Yes, now he won't sign."
            Haye - "I'll sign"
            Vitali - "Umm, well, if you beat me then you have to fight us again, whichever one did better the first time around" Klits give eachother high fives and ass pats.
            Haye - "I'll sign"

            What a bunch of wimps, seriously. I like Wlad, not Vitali so much, but this is rediculous.

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            • #86
              Haye is getting more love every day!!!





              lets hope he can walk the talk!!!! if he does..!! damnn... finally somebody will put the HW in the map again!


              with that being said...


              not impossible but its gonna be hard for him.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by mellow_mood View Post
                Haye is getting more love every day!!!





                lets hope he can walk the talk!!!! if he does..!! damnn... finally somebody will put the HW in the map again!


                with that being said...


                not impossible but its gonna be hard for him.
                Everyone has a punchers chance against Wlad. But Haye is a hell of a lot faster than anyone else Wlad has fought, so his "punchers chance" is much greater. He could get lucky, twice against Wlad. It's not impossible. What is impossible (or very damn close to it) is doing that twice, and KOing Vitali. I'm guessing that fight will be in Germany too so Haye wont win on points.
                As for the contract here's the options:
                a) Wlad is **** scared Haye will beat him and is ensuring that the Klit brothers will hold the belts at the end of the 3 fights and will make the brothers a **** load of money as they will promote the 3 fights. The interest in the rematches will be huge WORLDWIDE if Haye wins any/all of the figthts. thats a lot of money.
                b) Wlad realizes Haye has next to no chance of winning and is just making sure he covers his ass, as he can make Haye agree to pretty much anything, and in doing so will make the brothers a **** load of money as they will promote the 3 fights if Haye gets lucky. The interest in the rematches will be huge WORLDWIDE if Haye wins any/all of the figthts. thats a lot of money.
                c) Wlad's gonna take a dive in the first fight. This will make the brothers a **** load of money not only on the bet on a Haye KO in round x, but the rematches too as they will promote the 3 fights. The interest in the rematches will be huge WORLDWIDE if Haye wins any/all of the figthts. thats even more money.

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                • #88
                  Cannot wait for Haye to ko these chumps once and for all and win all 3 bouts then the 'Klitchkos are ATGs' statement can ****in die and never come back. Cannot wait.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by BennyST View Post
                    This isn't the problem though. A normal rematch clause is fine and usually expected. The absurd thing about this one is the fact that he is stating that he has to fight another fighter in the rematch clause! I can't understand that.

                    Can you imagine if Oscar had said to Floyd when they were going to fight "If you beat me you have to fight Bernard Hopkins (because I know that you can't). I get to have another shot at you after that though as well if you just happen to beat him"?

                    He has actually said that you have to fight another fighter in his own rematch clause. Wladimir having a rematch set in stone for himself is perfectly normal. Many, if not most, title fights have that in place. His rematch is stating that he has to fight a completely different fighter though as well as himself getting another crack at it. I can't believe it. It's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in terms of negotiations and I can understand why Haye is letting it out now. He was always going to take the fight, but he wants to let everyone know what a pathetic pair of fighters these two are. I would too. Hopefully it will get everyone, apart from the rabid Klit fans obviously, on his side. He deserves it. This clause is a disgrace to boxing.
                    Well Haye is getting a title shot that he didn't earn and he said he wanted to KO both brothers anyway so this shouldn't a problem for him.

                    That's a bad analogy you're using since it's not just "another fighter" it's his brother, who happens to hold the WBC title which is a unique situation.

                    What's pathetic is people complaining when Haye is getting exactly what he asked/begged (to KO both Klits and unify the division) for should he land the proverbial lucky punch fighting Wladimir. Haye didn't like the contract he shouldn't have agreed to it and signed it! Then Haye could have fought and earned his way into a mandatory title shot like most contenders do. Had Haye done that and then KlitschkO's made him sign this type of contract only then would all you KlitschkO hater/trolls have a valid argument, but since he didn't, you don't! Case closed!

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                    • #90
                      Haye deserves to have to sign a bull**** contract its not like he earned his shot in the first place. **** if I held all the cards which Wlad does Id make the contract say you have to keep fighting me till I win or retire. Why does anyone think Haye should get a fair contract when its not fair hes even getting a shot in the first place? He should have to blow both the brothers at the same time just to get a shot.

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