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  • ThaSilverSurfer
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    mayweather padwork

    sorry if its already been done...but i'm seeing it everywhere! people imitating the mayweather focus pad routines. i think its detrimental to teach ESPECIALLY to beginners simply because you will NEVER EVER fight that way unless its with your lil sister.
    the routine lacks power shots, full extension, spontaneity and is unrealistic in its 8 punch counter combos! floyd can get away with it cause he mastered his basics all them years ago...also by his own admission his hands are f'd.
    i think its a fad and people who dont know jack will try and imitate it.
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    #2
    the and 1 of pad work?

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    • ThaSilverSurfer
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      #3
      Originally posted by 2501
      the and 1 of pad work?
      uhhh say what?...

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      • Cuauhtémoc1520
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        #4
        Originally posted by ThaSilverSurfer
        sorry if its already been done...but i'm seeing it everywhere! people imitating the mayweather focus pad routines. i think its detrimental to teach ESPECIALLY to beginners simply because you will NEVER EVER fight that way unless its with your lil sister.
        the routine lacks power shots, full extension, spontaneity and is unrealistic in its 8 punch counter combos! floyd can get away with it cause he mastered his basics all them years ago...also by his own admission his hands are f'd.
        i think its a fad and people who dont know jack will try and imitate it.
        I dissagree, I'm a trainer and I see nothing wrong with this because mitt work isn't just to simulate fighting or sparring. Mitt work is also good for reflexes, hand eye coordination etc. Nothing will substitute sparring or actual fighting...nothing.

        The mitt work Mayweather does is more to increase speed and allow you to understand what counters what. He teaches you that a stright right counters a straight right, a hook a hook and an uppercut a body shot from the same side etc. It also helps immensly in defensive drills that are mostly reactionary.

        I don't think you quite understand what mitt work is all about....

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        • ThaSilverSurfer
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          #5
          Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
          I dissagree, I'm a trainer and I see nothing wrong with this because mitt work isn't just to simulate fighting or sparring. Mitt work is also good for reflexes, hand eye coordination etc. Nothing will substitute sparring or actual fighting...nothing.

          The mitt work Mayweather does is more to increase speed and allow you to understand what counters what. He teaches you that a stright right counters a straight right, a hook a hook and an uppercut a body shot from the same side etc. It also helps immensly in defensive drills that are mostly reactionary.

          I don't think you quite understand what mitt work is all about....
          i'll assume then that you are a proponent of the style and have swallowed it hook line and sinker. my theory is that floyds hands are so brittle and worn out that it prevents him from hitting focus pads and the heavy bag in anger. you'll never see him load his shots in any of his training videos. we saw signs of his bad hands as far back as 2001 against carlos hernandez where he took a knee after hurting his hand on the top of carlos's head.
          ....so then it would follow that training would be modified to avoid any chance of ruining his million $$$ prize possessions ay? hence the very distinctive style of the mayweather routine.
          its almost amusing that 'trainers' like yourself have subscribed to the new religion ignorant of its real origins.

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          • hookoutofhell
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            #6
            Originally posted by ThaSilverSurfer
            sorry if its already been done...but i'm seeing it everywhere! people imitating the mayweather focus pad routines. i think its detrimental to teach ESPECIALLY to beginners simply because you will NEVER EVER fight that way unless its with your lil sister.
            the routine lacks power shots, full extension, spontaneity and is unrealistic in its 8 punch counter combos! floyd can get away with it cause he mastered his basics all them years ago...also by his own admission his hands are f'd.
            i think its a fad and people who dont know jack will try and imitate it.
            agree completly fighters like calzaghe and mayweather have found ways of training that overcome their brittle hands the danger comes when others think that this is a good way to train. The likes of floyd and calzaghe learned the basics before doing this and thats where every young boxer should start

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            • Joe2608
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              Well im not a trainer or boxer, but clearly it can't be very bad for him considering that he got to P4P No. 1 using that method.

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              • Cuauhtémoc1520
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                #8
                Originally posted by ThaSilverSurfer
                i'll assume then that you are a proponent of the style and have swallowed it hook line and sinker. my theory is that floyds hands are so brittle and worn out that it prevents him from hitting focus pads and the heavy bag in anger. you'll never see him load his shots in any of his training videos. we saw signs of his bad hands as far back as 2001 against carlos hernandez where he took a knee after hurting his hand on the top of carlos's head.
                ....so then it would follow that training would be modified to avoid any chance of ruining his million $$$ prize possessions ay? hence the very distinctive style of the mayweather routine.
                its almost amusing that 'trainers' like yourself have subscribed to the new religion ignorant of its real origins.
                My God, you are looking WAYYYYY too much into this. My point is that, I see nothing wrong in what he's doing or people trying to emulate it. I don't use that style when I train my fighters, I have my own methods on the mitts.

                For the record, there are so many different styles of training, there isn't one "right" way, to think that is egotistical and ignorant.

                I have seen some coaches not use hard punches to the heavy bag at all, I have seen some use nothing but power training.

                I think the key to being a good coach is understanding your fighters strengths and weaknesses and working from there. I have been involved in boxing since I was 13, I'm 35 now, don't " " me as if I don't know what I'm talking about.

                To think one thing can be either good or bad for every fighter shows you know very little of the sport.

                It's not a training method I use but I don't see the detriment that you are talking about at all because like I said, sparring and fighting will never be replaced. Things you do in the gym don't necessarily translate literally into the ring.

                As far as Mayweather's brittle hands, maybe that is something he developed but it's also something that can be used to develop hand eye coordination among younger fighters that are lacking that.

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                • Pullcounter
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by ThaSilverSurfer
                  i'll assume then that you are a proponent of the style and have swallowed it hook line and sinker. my theory is that floyds hands are so brittle and worn out that it prevents him from hitting focus pads and the heavy bag in anger. you'll never see him load his shots in any of his training videos. we saw signs of his bad hands as far back as 2001 against carlos hernandez where he took a knee after hurting his hand on the top of carlos's head.
                  ....so then it would follow that training would be modified to avoid any chance of ruining his million $$$ prize possessions ay? hence the very distinctive style of the mayweather routine.
                  its almost amusing that 'trainers' like yourself have subscribed to the new religion ignorant of its real origins.
                  why do you assume that the mitt work began with floyd jr?

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                  • Naps
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                    #10
                    Mayweather has got Hatton doing it, and to be honest, Hatton looked rapid with it!

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