Hatton Heads To Vegas, Vows To Boss Pacquiao Around

[trainhard_187]

Morales was already on the way down when he beat pac., he already had taken many many violent beatings, that just goes to show how fkin good he was by beatin a younger stronger fighter past his prime.. and vs dlhoya ofcourse i didnt give pac a chance but i also had no idea dlh would go into the fight weighin 145 instead of 162, dehydrated and weak. Im not hatin guy, im a pacman fan too,i love his style and hes a very good fighter ,im just saying hes overrated because hes ranked #1 p4p but imo he hasnt really beaten any great fighters in their prime. yes he over powered JMM but jmm dominated him for about 17 of 24 rounds

So Marquez has?
Lets breakdown Marquezs resume
-Never fought Morales A GREAT FIGHTER
-Beat Juarez whos a B fighter NOT A GREAT FIGHTER
-Beat Barrera in 2007, who was FAR FROM HIS PRIME (Barrera did knock him down, Pac dominated MAB in 03', 4 years earlier then Marquez) GREAT FIGHTER
-Lost to Chris John (Never defended the lost) NOT A GREAT FIGHTER
-Beat Casamayor (Dont tell me Joel was in his prime, dude was OLD and on the verge to loosing to Katsidas before the KO) NOT A GREAT FIGHTER
-Beat Juan Diaz (Who was schooled by Campbell and goes to show that he cant hang with the big guns) NOT A GREAT FIGHTER
-Jimrex Jaca Wasnt even close to great a C rated fighter

So other then the Barrera win, which wasnt in a dominating fashion, who great has Marquez fought?
B RATED FIGHTERS, OLD FIGHTERS, AND FIGHTERS WHO WERE OVERHYPED AS BEING THE NEXT BEST THING.

[Esquire Dale]

Am I the only one who enjoys Hatton pushing other fighters around for 12 rounds?

I love it when he beats them around the ring, It's great!.

[QUISQUEYA]

So Marquez has?
Lets breakdown Marquezs resume
-Never fought Morales A GREAT FIGHTER
-Beat Juarez whos a B fighter NOT A GREAT FIGHTER
-Beat Barrera in 2007, who was FAR FROM HIS PRIME (Barrera did knock him down, Pac dominated MAB in 03', 4 years earlier then Marquez) GREAT FIGHTER
-Lost to Chris John (Never defended the lost) NOT A GREAT FIGHTER
-Beat Casamayor (Dont tell me Joel was in his prime, dude was OLD and on the verge to loosing to Katsidas before the KO) NOT A GREAT FIGHTER
-Beat Juan Diaz (Who was schooled by Campbell and goes to show that he cant hang with the big guns) NOT A GREAT FIGHTER
-Jimrex Jaca Wasnt even close to great a C rated fighter

So other then the Barrera win, which wasnt in a dominating fashion, who great has Marquez fought?
B RATED FIGHTERS, OLD FIGHTERS, AND FIGHTERS WHO WERE OVERHYPED AS BEING THE NEXT BEST THING.

Sooooo, you are basically discrediting Pacquiao's best wins of the past 5-6 years.

[trainhard_187]

Morales was already on the way down when he beat pac., he already had taken many many violent beatings, that just goes to show how fkin good he was by beatin a younger stronger fighter past his prime.. and vs dlhoya ofcourse i didnt give pac a chance but i also had no idea dlh would go into the fight weighin 145 instead of 162, dehydrated and weak. Im not hatin guy, im a pacman fan too,i love his style and hes a very good fighter ,im just saying hes overrated because hes ranked #1 p4p but imo he hasnt really beaten any great fighters in their prime. yes he over powered JMM but jmm dominated him for about 17 of 24 rounds

And who has? Mayweather? Mayweather was P4P #1 cause he beat prime great prime fighters? Lets see

-Hatton Prime but not great
-Delahoya Hmmmmm Was he at his prime then in your opinion? He was in the fight with May more then Pacquiao. Ill leave that one up to you. I dont know about calling DLH great. Some might argue.
-Baldomir GREAT NO
-Judah GREAT NO
-Mitchel GREAT NO
-Gatti GREAT (Some might argue but IMO NO)

Who has Mayweather beat IN THEIR PRIME other the Hatton?

[trainhard_187]

Sooooo, you are basically discrediting Pacquiao's best wins of the past 5-6 years.

Obviously your not reading it right! Please dont be clueless your making yourself look like a fool.

Pacs best wins are 2x over Morales which Marquez never fought,
his early fight with MAB in 03 not 07' when MAB was far from his prime,
and his leap to 147 to BEATDOWN not win BEATDOWN the bigger Delahoya.

[dnfisher]

anybody know what gym Hatton is training in when he gets to Vegas? I'll be there this week and would love to try and drop in.

[Dave Rado]

So Marquez has?
Lets breakdown Marquezs resume
-Never fought Morales A GREAT FIGHTER
-Beat Juarez whos a B fighter NOT A GREAT FIGHTER
-Beat Barrera in 2007, who was FAR FROM HIS PRIME (Barrera did knock him down, Pac dominated MAB in 03', 4 years earlier then Marquez) GREAT FIGHTER
-Lost to Chris John (Never defended the lost) NOT A GREAT FIGHTER
-Beat Casamayor (Dont tell me Joel was in his prime, dude was OLD and on the verge to loosing to Katsidas before the KO) NOT A GREAT FIGHTER
-Beat Juan Diaz (Who was schooled by Campbell and goes to show that he cant hang with the big guns) NOT A GREAT FIGHTER
-Jimrex Jaca Wasnt even close to great a C rated fighter

So other then the Barrera win, which wasnt in a dominating fashion, who great has Marquez fought?
B RATED FIGHTERS, OLD FIGHTERS, AND FIGHTERS WHO WERE OVERHYPED AS BEING THE NEXT BEST THING.

You, QUISQUEYA and PHX PLAYMAKER have managed to demonstrate between you how one can make literally anyone's résumé look bad if one really wants to. And that, if you accept PHX PLAYMAKER's logic, every fighter who ever lived is the most over-rated fighter who ever lived.

It's just as easy to play that game with the previous P4P #1, Mayweather's, résumé, and haters play it on these forums all the time. Before that Hopkins was rated #1 and it's as easy to play it with Hopkins' résumé. Before that it was De La Hoya and before him, Roy Jones and it's easy to play that game with their résumés as well, and their haters frequently do exactly that on these forums.

I know that in your case, you were only doing it in order to prove a point about the games they were playing, but the games they were playing show both of them up as complete haters, and show up their claim to be Pac fans to be an utter lie, pure and simple.

[QUISQUEYA]

Obviously your not reading it right! Please dont be clueless your making yourself look like a fool.

Pacs best wins are 2x over Morales which Marquez never fought,
his early fight with MAB in 03 not 07' when MAB was far from his prime,
and his leap to 147 to BEATDOWN not win BEATDOWN the bigger Delahoya.

Train,

No need to get emotional.
I think that KNOWLEDGEABLE boxing fans will tell you that the 2nd and 3rd fight was against a vastly diminished Morales.

The Delahoya win? There isn't a font big enough for me to give that the asterisk it deserves.

So, yes. Like I said. You are discrediting Pac's best win of the past 5-6 years. Why does that confuse you?

If you think a weakened, stationary Oscar is a better win than JMM, then I respectfully disagree with you.

See, we can disagree without you being hormonal.

[Motofan]

At least he sounds confident and says what you want to hear him say. Floyd didnt beat the confidence out of him.

[QUISQUEYA]

At least he sounds confident and says what you want to hear him say. Floyd didnt beat the confidence out of him.

He was sapped of that confidence post-FMJ. And he musta really questioned himself post-Lazcano. Thus, the trainer change.

But I think the Malignaggi fight was a huge confidence-booster for him. Plus, FMS is the type of trainer who will get you feeling good about your abilities. Ricky is hitting the pads in that Mayweather style, as opposed to the Graham style.
He feels he's learning more and has additional tools in his toolkit.