Lets end it all top 10 heavies all time.

[ragingvic]

im surprised the louis vs ali argument for #1 hasent come up yet.

[Dirt E Gomez]

im surprised the louis vs ali argument for #1 hasent come up yet.

There's no wrong answer, although preferably people who do it are consistent w/ the rest of their list regarding longevity etc...

[Memeori]

I would have Ali at #1 he had atg fights, the loses at the end of his career don't really downplay his accomplisments.

[Dirt E Gomez]

I would have Ali at #1 he had atg fights, the loses at the end of his career don't really downplay his accomplisments.

While I understand that argument; it's one I've never liked.

I've never been a fan of the fighting past prime losses don't count. Well, then wins past prime don't count and suddenly Foreman loses his most notable accomplishment or Louis regaining the HW title as well.

Like I said, it's not wrong; it's just not a school of thought I agree with.

[totalstranga]

I'd have brought that **** up already but ppl arent giving Holy his due. I'll never put Ali above Loius.

[STILL DETOX]

lmfaoooooooooooooooooooo

[TheGreatA]

While I understand that argument; it's one I've never liked.

I've never been a fan of the fighting past prime losses don't count. Well, then wins past prime don't count and suddenly Foreman loses his most notable accomplishment or Louis regaining the HW title as well.

Like I said, it's not wrong; it's just not a school of thought I agree with.

Losses should count although in Ali's case it was blatantly obvious that he was not the same fighter at the end of his long career. I doubt anyone will try to make an argument that Trevor Berbick could've handled Ali in his prime.

Post your lists here:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=258541

[KostyaTszyu44]

holyfield should def. be on there

and tyson has no business on the list IMO

[TheGreatA]

holyfield should def. be on there

and tyson has no business on the list IMO

Tyson certainly does not belong in the top 5 based on his resume and longevity.

I'd rate him in the top 15 though.

What hurts Holyfield in my opinion is the fact that he never really had a great title reign (except at cruiserweight). He won the title (alphabet version) more times than anybody but he also lost it more times than anybody and never held it for a long period of time. His first reign as champion was good but heavily criticized at the time since he fought "old men" (Holmes and Foreman) and "journeymen" (Bert Cooper) who proved to be competitive.

[poontango]

1)Chuck Wepner
2)Bruce Seldon
3)Maurice Harris
4)James Thunder
5)Louis Monaco
6)Paenga Wolfrgram
7)Larry Holmes
8)Michael Grant
9)Muhammad Ali
10)Henry Akinwande