Roy vs Pavlick

[Spray_resistant]

LOL, you guys are great.

Yeah, whatever, I guess you are right. Roy just beat Sheika, I guess he would *** Pavlik up beyond repair. My mistake. I must have been imagining Roy barely throwing a proper punch for 6 rounds against Calzaghe; or struggling in the first half of a fight against a fat, inactive Welterweight; or having to battle to beat C-class Hanshaw; or getting knocked the *** out by a journeyman. Sorry.

I am not basing my opinion soley on my fandom for Roy Jones. Pavlik has not looked great in his last couple either.....I mean Rubio barely threw any meaningful punches in their fight but when he did he hit pavlik with everything he threw at him.....even in a tko win Pavlik looked terrible.

[MonsieurGeorges]

I am not basing my opinion soley on my fandom for Roy Jones. Pavlik has not looked great in his last couple either.....I mean Rubio barely threw any meaningful punches in their fight but when he did he hit pavlik with everything he threw at him.....even in a tko win Pavlik looked terrible.

Pavlik looked good against Taylor the 2nd time, flat against Bhop and then looked alright against Rubio, but the guy was in there just trying to survive

[Spray_resistant]

Pavlik looked good against Taylor the 2nd time, flat against Bhop and then looked alright against Rubio, but the guy was in there just trying to survive

That is not satisfactory if you are supposed to be the best middleweight in the world. Champions have to be held to the highest standards.

[Dan...]

I am not basing my opinion soley on my fandom for Roy Jones. Pavlik has not looked great in his last couple either.....I mean Rubio barely threw any meaningful punches in their fight but when he did he hit pavlik with everything he threw at him.....even in a tko win Pavlik looked terrible.

Pavlik is a volume puncher.

The 40 year old version of Roy Jones hates volume punchers. He tires fairly early, then resorts to a "stand-still" style of defence - something he has never done with any great success.

I don't care if the fight is at 160 or HW, there is no overcoming those facts. Roy could not win this fight. He does not have the power necessary to stop Pavlik and he would not be able to hang with his workrate for more than 2/3 rounds. Fight over.

[Don Johnson]

LOL, you guys are great.

Yeah, whatever, I guess you are right. Roy just beat Sheika, I guess he would *** Pavlik up beyond repair. My mistake. I must have been imagining Roy barely throwing a proper punch for 6 rounds against Calzaghe; or struggling in the first half of a fight against a fat, inactive Welterweight; or having to battle to beat C-class Hanshaw; or getting knocked the *** out by a journeyman. Sorry.

pavlik is no LHW, roy will dominate him, his defense is nothing to write home about neither, roy can still move, he has better lateral movement than jermain taylor, and can still punch from odd angles.

[MELLY-MEL...]

The current RJJ, as much as i love him is a shadow of himself, and nothing near bhop. pavlik will khtfo.

[MELLY-MEL...]

pavlik is no LHW, roy will dominate him, his defense is nothing to write home about neither, roy can still move, he has better lateral movement than jermain taylor, and can still punch from odd angles.

wrong, roy can not still move. he lays on the ropes. perfect for pavlik. roys hands a still quick, but don't mistake that as moving. his legs are gone.

[Dan...]

pavlik is no LHW, roy will dominate him, his defense is nothing to write home about neither, roy can still move, he has better lateral movement than jermain taylor, and can still punch from odd angles.

He can't move in the ways that matter anymore.

In his prime Jones would have barely been hit by Pavlik. His explosiveness in his legs would have had him leaping in and out of range and tagging Kelly with unreadable and precise power combinations.

WHen was the last time you say Roy use his legs in that fashion? Ruiz? Perhaps even before then. Roy's entire game now relies on his handspeed, and even that is not what it used to be.

[Dan...]

wrong, roy can not still move. he lays on the ropes. perfect for pavlik. roys hands a still quick, but don't mistake that as moving. his legs are gone.

You beat me to it man. This is 100% correct.

[hishaam15]

How do you guys think RJJ would have done against the Pavlik that turned up against B-hop at 170?