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  • Vasyl’s dad
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    #61
    Originally posted by javelin_fangs
    Being heavier and bigger is an advantage. Otherwise, we wouldn't have so many different weight divisions.
    Mayweather took a calculated risk that even though his punches wouldn't hurt DLH at least he'd have a huge speed and skill advantage which could make up the difference. As it turns out he did, but many people looked at the fact that DLH could drive Mayweather back with even landing punches as an advantage and scored the fight accordingly. So, being heavier and bigger is always going to help your cause in a boxing match as long as you're in shape.
    So, the bigger, heavier guy always wins right?


    Not necessarily.


    Because sometimes being the smaller, speedier man is an advantage as well.


    Again, being bigger and heavier, isn't always an advantage.

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    • THE REED
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      #62
      Originally posted by Tha_Greatest
      nah , just focused on you for a couple of hours(im at work for couple more hours on a computer deskjob)



      by the way, i know youre not exactly a floyd fan(yacht thread),


      but floyd cant come off with that ****** excuse if he loses cause a long layoff, he chose to have a layoff, if this was true, you have to blame gay ass floyd on that, its not true though, floyd is still in his ******y ass prime so still, no excuse, even with layoff



      floyd didnt dehabilitate his body like legendary Roy Jones did


      floyd was just taking a layoff , training and getting butt****ed
      I dont wanna hear any excuses either....

      I was just commenting on how a layoff will damper ones timing... which is one of Floyds best weapons... for offense and defense...


      What I said wasnt something just a fan would say... it is true.

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      • javelin_fangs
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        #63
        Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
        So, the bigger, heavier guy always wins right?


        Not necessarily.


        Because sometimes being the smaller, speedier man is an advantage as well.


        Again, being bigger and heavier, isn't always an advantage.
        Being bigger is ALWAYS an advantage dude. Get it through your head. All else equal, the bigger guy will win. No all else is never equal which is why the bigger guy does not always win.

        But let's use DLH-Mayweather as an example. Mayweather was better. He was faster, more skilled and younger. DLH had the size and power advantage. So, that made it a closer fight than it would have been otherwise. If they'd been the same size Mayweather probably would have KO'd DLH. But it definitely helped DLH that he was bigger. Just not enough to make up for the fact that Mayweather is just a much better boxer than him.

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          #64
          Originally posted by javelin_fangs
          Being bigger is ALWAYS an advantage dude. Get it through your head. All else equal, the bigger guy will win. No all else is never equal which is why the bigger guy does not always win.

          But let's use DLH-Mayweather as an example. Mayweather was better. He was faster, more skilled and younger. DLH had the size and power advantage. So, that made it a closer fight than it would have been otherwise. If they'd been the same size Mayweather probably would have KO'd DLH. But it definitely helped DLH that he was bigger. Just not enough to make up for the fact that Mayweather is just a much better boxer than him.


          Now, if you're curious as to what issue it is, its the issue detailing the DLH Pacquiao announcement. There is an article dedicated to the smaller man beating the bigger man.
          Being bigger is not always better.
          There are boxers on record in Ring magazine as saying they liked to fight bigger fighters because they were slower and easier to hit. I don't have the issue in front of me, but it is there.

          Now, who should I believe, a blogger or an actual experienced fighter?

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          • Tha_Greatest
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            #65
            Originally posted by javelin_fangs
            First of all man, Floyd didn't lose and isn't making excuses. Get that straight. If he were to lose (and that's a pretty big fu(king IF) he might make excuses. But save the agitated rants about him losing and then making excuses about it until he actually loses and then makes an excuse about it.
            he hasnt come back either and if he were, hed probably fight Hatton again so dumbass Hatton can get knocked out by a ring pole again, no way is Floyd ever gonna fight anyone dangerous and No..............No.....................floyd cannot beat Sugar Ray Robinson(Told you that before your Floyd cheering ass states this)

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              #66
              another pbf appreciation thread being dedicated by the same obsessed fans disguising themselves as haters! Almost made it thru the day without one!

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                #67
                Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
                Being bigger is not always better.
                There are boxers on record in Ring magazine as saying they liked to fight bigger fighters because they were slower and easier to hit. I don't have the issue in front of me, but it is there.

                Now, who should I believe, a blogger or an actual experienced fighter?
                Certain fighters who are skilled and very fast might like to fight bigger slower guys. That makes perfect sense. But do you think that let's use Pacquiao for example instead of Mayweather. Do you think that if Pacquiao were 5'10" retained his speed even while adding 15 lbs of pure muscle wouldn't be a better fighter? Dude this is exactly why we have different divisions.

                Look at Roy Jones. Do you think his win over John Ruiz impresses people because people thought John Ruiz was anywhere near as skilled as Roy Jones? No. John Ruiz fu(king sucks and always has. What impresses people is the fact that Roy Jones was able to make up for the huge size advantage Ruiz had by using his speed and skill to beat a much bigger guy.

                But that doesn't mean that being bigger isn't an advantage. It's always an advantage.
                Last edited by javelin_fangs; 03-24-2009, 06:28 PM.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Tha_Greatest
                  he hasnt come back either and if he were, hed probably fight Hatton again so dumbass Hatton can get knocked out by a ring pole again, no way is Floyd ever gonna fight anyone dangerous and No..............No.....................floyd cannot beat Sugar Ray Robinson(Told you that before your Floyd cheering ass states this)
                  What the hell is wrong with you? You've got a really big amount of unjustified hate in you that's just not healthy.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by javelin_fangs
                    Certain fighters who are skilled and very fast might like to fight bigger slower guys. That makes perfect sense. But do you think that let's use Pacquiao for example instead of Mayweather. Do you think that if Pacquiao were 5'10" retained his speed even while adding 15 lbs of pure muscle wouldn't be a better fighter? Dude this is exactly why we have different divisions.

                    Look at Roy Jones. Do you think his win over John Ruiz impresses people because people thought John Ruiz was anywhere near as skilled as Roy Jones? No. John Ruiz fu(king sucks and always has. What impresses people is the fact that Roy Jones was able to make up for the huge size advantage by uses his speed and skill to beat a much bigger guy.

                    But that doesn't mean that being bigger isn't an advantage. It's always an advantage.
                    Again, its sometimes an advantage, not always.

                    Speaking in absolutes is moronic.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by El Gallo Negro!
                      Being bigger is not always better.
                      There are boxers on record in Ring magazine as saying they liked to fight bigger fighters because they were slower and easier to hit. I don't have the issue in front of me, but it is there.

                      Now, who should I believe, a blogger or an actual experienced fighter?
                      Plus, I bet you those same fighters who say they liked fighting bigger slower fighters wouldn't say they like fighting bigger fighter who're the same speed. Because if you take the speed advantage away from them I'll bet you any amount of money all of a sudden they wouldn't want to fight those big guys, which is my point. Being bigger in and of itself is always an advantage.

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