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  • ChiRock773
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    #11
    Originally posted by RRICAN
    Vargas; i just hope his management learn a lesson about bringing him up a little slower than they did w/ Vargas. I wanna see a fight with juanma lopez in the future
    Ortiz is gonna be fighting at WW..he's already too big for Juanma even at this point in time.....

    Anyways...Ortiz is not as hot headed as Vargas was back then so I don't see him making these foolish mistakes by fighting elite fighters early in his career...He'll be dominating the 140 division within a year though....

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    • RRICAN
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      #12
      Originally posted by dans01234
      Really? I see Ortiz moving up to welterweight eventually. I think the highest Juanma will go is 135, 140 is stretching it.
      i think that they will meet at 140 (fingers crossed) i think by that time they will be in theirs respective primes (2-3 years)
      What do you think about that fight???

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      • RRICAN
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        #13
        Originally posted by ChiRock773
        Ortiz is gonna be fighting at WW..he's already too big for Juanma even at this point in time.....

        Anyways...Ortiz is not as hot headed as Vargas was back then so I don't see him making these foolish mistakes by fighting elite fighters early in his career...He'll be dominating the 140 division within a year though....
        140 in 2-3 years these tw0 guys shoul be up there. i dont think juanma will stay at 122 for much longer

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        • The Gunner
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          #14
          Ortiz reminds me a lot of a young Chavez. I'm not saying he'll reach that level but that is who i would compare him to. So far so good from this kid, he's a beast at 140.

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            #15
            Originally posted by The Gunner
            Ortiz reminds me a lot of a young Chavez. I'm not saying he'll reach that level but that is who i would compare him to. So far so good from this kid, he's a beast at 140.
            ........WTF

            They fight completely different.

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            • strugler
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              #16
              Originally posted by ChiRock773
              Ortiz is gonna be fighting at WW..he's already too big for Juanma even at this point in time.....

              Anyways...Ortiz is not as hot headed as Vargas was back then so I don't see him making these foolish mistakes by fighting elite fighters early in his career...He'll be dominating the 140 division within a year though....
              Ortiz looks like a good kid, Early Vargas was brave and skilled but hes too much of a hothead.imo.

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              • Rich Loc
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                #17
                Juan Diaz ............

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                • talip bin osman
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                  #18
                  ortiz vs berto @ WW will be a fun fight...

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                  • Cuauhtémoc1520
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                    #19
                    Everyone says Vargas but to me, I don't see ti as much as some do. I think physically there's a similarity but I think that Ortiz shows much more natural ability.

                    He's very fast and very good in his fundamentals. He doesn't make many mistakes and is showing power that I think could even surpass Vargas.

                    Also, listening to him talk, it seems as though he has his **** together much more than a young Vargas did.

                    I think physically he is like Vargas but mentally I think he's on the same path as DLH and that's a great thing for him. I hope stays focused, doesn't take anyone for granted and if he does those things, the sky is the limit for this kid.

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                    • Pullcounter
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by putangina
                      based on the greats.your takes....
                      oscar: if they move him slow and match him correctly

                      vargas: if they move him too fast against the wrong opponents

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