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  • J.B.moneY.
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    #11
    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
    no matter how good your prediction or how you study a fight and the fighter's style there's always a variable unaccounted for.

    i predicted how marquez-diaz was gonna go up to when diaz got ktfo.

    i knew diaz's strength and youth will allow him to bully jmm.

    didn't account for jmm's power being much stronger at 135 and knocking diaz out.

    yea dont sleep on marquez power...i knew he would beat diaz, but i thought it would be by decision not by ko

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    • Miburo
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      #12
      If Mayweather loses it will be like the apocalypse on these boards. 40 days and nights of Floyd hate threads.

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      • J.B.moneY.
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        #13
        Originally posted by Tengoshi
        If Mayweather loses it will be like the apocalypse on these boards. 40 days and nights of Floyd hate threads.
        i just couldnt agree more, and the guy is STILL retired....and he dominates 2/3 of the threads and havent fought since december of '07

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        • Left Hook Tua
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          #14
          Originally posted by J.B.moneY.
          yea dont sleep on marquez power...i knew he would beat diaz, but i thought it would be by decision not by ko
          he really gained a lot of power moving up to 135.

          or maybe he emphasizes it more since his speed and skills are deteriorating.

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          • Left Hook Tua
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            #15
            Originally posted by Spiegelo
            Damn damn damn I predicted the KO I SHOULD HAVE BET YOU! Always betting on the younger man Tua, when will you learn to have faith in your fellow geezers?
            the prediction looked good for the 1st half of the fight......

            underestimated jmm's power and/or overestimated diaz's chin.



            jmm is starting to show his age. the jmm from last year would have not gotten hit so much by diaz.

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            • Titing Kabayo
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              #16
              If Floyd lost, it will be the end of everything for him... especially his very bad mouth.. and the winner will get all credits without any excuse..

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              • F l i c k e r
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                #17
                Originally posted by yeykax
                ITS a known fact that after a long lay off boxers get ring rust and most of the time no matter how good they were before they never look the same as before the lay off or in this case retirement!!Now if Mayweather loses to either Pacman,Cotto,or Mosley does that means they where always better?or it was because of the lay off?and last question will you give pacman,cotto,mosley credit for beating him??????????
                Who cares. It will make Mayweather haters stop hating and Mayweather nuthuggers stop being squirrels. Everyone can continue life and the real Mayweather fans will still be Mayweather fans.

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                • Benny Leonard
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                  #18
                  I said a while back I didn't think Floyd was at his best anymore and people wanted to say it was excuses....so there you go.

                  I posted videos from fights of his he had from 130-140 to show the difference but most don't care to pay attention. I also mentioned the interviews with Floyd and how he Mentally changed as a fighter and wouldn't take the risks he used to in the ring. Another sign of decline because the Mental side to your game is a part of it.

                  I think most think as long as you are winning and are still considered "young" you must be still at your best but I don't define it like that. If I see you were better then, than now, and you don't reverse the course, it shows me you are no longer at your best.

                  Add all that to the long layoff, and what do you have?

                  Physically, Floyd is what he is now and we will have to add in the layoff. Like Freddie Roach even said, "You cannot be a part time fighter."

                  Mentally however, you may be able to get it back because George Foreman was able to. You need that hunger, that motivation, that purpose to prove yourself. Does Floyd still have that or is it all about the Green now?
                  The fact that he has retired twice and he has continued to talk about burn out is good enough for me.
                  He should stay retired if he cannot fight like he used to.
                  Last edited by Benny Leonard; 03-24-2009, 05:39 AM.

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                  • yeykax
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                    I said a while back I didn't think Floyd was at his best anymore and people wanted to say it was excuses....so there you go.

                    I posted videos from fights of his he had from 130-140 to show the difference but most don't care to pay attention. I also mentioned the interviews with Floyd and how he Mentally changed as a fighter and wouldn't take the risks he used to in the ring. Another sign of decline because the Mental side to your game is a part of it.

                    I think most think as long as you are winning and are still considered "young" you must be still at your best but I don't define it like that. If I see you were better then, than now, and you don't reverse the course, it shows me you are no longer at your best.

                    Add all that to the long layoff, and what do you have?

                    Physically, Floyd is what he is now and we will have to add in the layoff. Like Freddie Roach even said, "You cannot be a part time fighter."

                    Mentally however, you may be able to get it back because George Foreman was able to. You need that hunger, that motivation, that purpose to prove yourself. Does Floyd still have that or is it all about the Green now?
                    The fact that he has retired twice and he has continued to talk about burn out is good enough for me.
                    He should stay retired if he cannot fight like he used to.
                    Well said!!!

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                    • da_beast
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Benny Leonard
                      I said a while back I didn't think Floyd was at his best anymore and people wanted to say it was excuses....so there you go.

                      I posted videos from fights of his he had from 130-140 to show the difference but most don't care to pay attention. I also mentioned the interviews with Floyd and how he Mentally changed as a fighter and wouldn't take the risks he used to in the ring. Another sign of decline because the Mental side to your game is a part of it.

                      I think most think as long as you are winning and are still considered "young" you must be still at your best but I don't define it like that. If I see you were better then, than now, and you don't reverse the course, it shows me you are no longer at your best.

                      Add all that to the long layoff, and what do you have?

                      Physically, Floyd is what he is now and we will have to add in the layoff. Like Freddie Roach even said, "You cannot be a part time fighter."

                      Mentally however, you may be able to get it back because George Foreman was able to. You need that hunger, that motivation, that purpose to prove yourself. Does Floyd still have that or is it all about the Green now?
                      The fact that he has retired twice and he has continued to talk about burn out is good enough for me.
                      He should stay retired if he cannot fight like he used to.
                      The guy has always been and will always be a gym rat. Thats why he is so good, i admire him but dislike him but dont be ****** enough to think he has not been keeping himself in shape whilst he has been retired. He lives and breathes the sport wether he like it or not he will do some sort of training every day

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