Pavlik vs. Abraham Unification in Talks For The Fall

[roundingace]

AA's turtle shell defense and approx 20 punches per round won't be enough, He has the power to change the fight with one punch, but it would need to be that "Tarver'esk" punch Pav doesn't see coming. I see him using his high volume and great power to end this inside 10 rounds. All I know, is this fight HAS TO HAPPEN!!! NO other fight in the MW division means **** and that's not any one fighters fault, it's just not a deep division. If Pav wins and wins big, well, we may see him stay put at MW as a previous poster said. If he wins by a standard margin, I definitely see him jumping up to SMW.

[roundingace]

AA's turtle shell defense and approx 20 punches per round won't be enough, He has the power to change the fight with one punch, but it would need to be that "Tarver'esk" punch Pav doesn't see coming. I see him using his high volume and great power to end this inside 10 rounds. All I know, is this fight HAS TO HAPPEN!!! NO other fight in the MW division means **** and that's not any one fighters fault, it's just not a deep division. If Pav wins and wins big, well, we may see him stay put at MW as a previous poster said. If he wins by a standard margin, I definitely see him jumping up to SMW.

Let's not forgot, speaking on the only fight that means ****, the other fight which had some significance, that of AA and Sturm, Felix flat out said no. That mother****er needs to either fight for a uni or be stripped. I hate that guy and he get's owned by either of AA or Pav anyway so he is most likely riding the wave until he doesn't have a choice but to get his head caved in.

[BadNewz]

Paul Williams will beat winky..abraham..and pavlik

Williams AND Winky would beat Abraham AND Pavlik, and that's even though Williams is a natural welterweight and Winky is a natural 154.

That's why Williams vs. Winky is the REAL middleweight championship of the world. Linear is not as important as having the best fight the best. Bums get to hold linear belts all the time. Even Zsolt Erdei has a linear belt.

[Low Blow Armo]

I don't understand how a bunch of you idiots sit here and say that AA's defense, and low punch output (which is not really that low) will not be enough to defeat a one dimensional fighter like Pavlik. But, you guys are the same that **** ride Hopkins and claim him as some defensive genius, who throws just enough to bore, I mean win.

[potatoes]

Kelly is in a real pickle. I don't think people dispute he is the best middleweight at the moment, in a division lacking depth and starpower.

He can risk it all against AA. Probably a better payday then against any of the other fights at 160, but nowhere near the money from the second fight with Taylor or the Hopkins fight. So he could move up in weight right? I don't think 168 looks as financially lucrative as it has been over the last couple years. Outside of fighting Chad Dawson at 168, which I don't see happening, what is there? I don't think Kessler-Pavlik would generate a lot of money.

Kelly may have to be content ruling middleweight (unless he has problems making weight), cleaning up the division, and weight for takers to come to him. The problem -- HBO/Showtime do not appear to want to pay for tuneup defenses unless there is a big fight to build off it. If Pavlik is relegated to lower-tier PPV bouts, he may lose the fan base that he built against Miranda and Taylor.

We all want the Abraham fight, but the fight that I think in the next year or so that would be the best for Kelly would be James Kirkland, should Kirkland wish to move up in weight. Given the promotion that Kirkland has been getting from HBO in the last year, they could sell that. Good fight for fans. Also makes since for both fighters, since neither is developed enought to challenge elite slick boxers.

Pavlik could have become the biggest draw in boxing. He has a fan friendly style because he comes to fight. The problem is he hasn't learned his trade. The second fight with Taylor should have been the wake-up call, but he persisted with his dreams and delusions until Hopkins gave him a very rude awakening. As to whether he has cleaned up his act and got back to learning his trade will never be known until he faces a capable boxer. There will always be a thousand suggestions about whom he should fight, but does it really make any difference? If he ducks the tough fights he won't make any money, if he takes them he risks another embarrassing boxing lesson.

[roundingace]

The second fight with Taylor should have been the wake-up call, but he persisted with his dreams and delusions

Yeah, beating the former undisputed MW for a second time was just it for me too. What was he thinking?!

[Da Hammer]

Cant wait for this fight i got Pavlik by decision!

[OnePost]

I don't understand how a bunch of you idiots sit here and say that AA's defense, and low punch output (which is not really that low) will not be enough to defeat a one dimensional fighter like Pavlik. But, you guys are the same that **** ride Hopkins and claim him as some defensive genius, who throws just enough to bore, I mean win.

Says the idiot who swings of off abraham's nutsack into every thread where Pavlik is mentioned... Again, what the **** has aa done that you think he is just going to steamroll Pavlik? Abraham has terrible footwork, no resume and had his jaw shattered by Miranda. Abraham's zero, the only thing he has over Kelly, means nothing because he has fought NO ONE other than Miranda. k

Let aa come with that high guard and see what kind of shape his ribs are in come the 7th round. Have you seen a Pavlik fight? Take note of the way he works the body. Your boy is in for a LONG night if he thinks he is going to cover up on the ropes and be gifted rounds like when he fights in Germany.

[ricky1978]

Not takin the bait. I'll believe it when it happens.

I am with you, but if it happens, Pavlik all the way......