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  • Originally posted by KrisSilver View Post
    Yes, because whichever boxer you have as an avater or are simply a fan of, you can never be objective on.

    That means you should never speak of the boxers in your avatar.

    Fuck outta here with the generalising cynical ****.

    Talk on point and give some info if you want some real credibility, otherwise you don't.
    i must hav hurt ur feelings

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    • Toney would win a decision. He was the kind of elusive boxer/counter puncher that would give Joe fits, and when he was in shape he could keep it up for the full 12 rounds. Joe is a good adaptable fighter, but that would be irrelavent when fighting someone who is versatile with that kind of hand speed, and i didn't see him adjust to either Reid or Hopkins(who both arguebally beat him). He punched hard enough to get Joe's respect as well.

      Also, is this prime for prime? Believe it or not, the older Calzaghe has a better chance at beating a prime Toney. A prime Calzaghe gets owned.

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      • I think Calzaghe would beat Toney purely because of his mobility. Toney could always slip punches and land countrs but Joe's in-and-out movement would evade Toney's counters and set him up for a good slapping. Joe wins a decision.

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        • Calzaghe by brutal KO

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          • Wtf why so many votes for Calzaghe?
            and why the hate for Toney?
            Toney was an OLD SCHOOl fighter, 70+ fights, your bound to have bad nights here and there.. add in Toneys weight problem

            were talking PRIME Toney here, meaning the one was a slick defensive/counter punching fighter with decent speed and power, NOT the weight drained version that fought Tiberi/Griffin x 2 etc..

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            • Originally posted by Testdead View Post
              Who he knock out at 200lbs? the only guy he stopped at heavy was Holyfield who was way over the hill.
              do you really think that Robin Reid or Kessler would have knocked out Holyfield? I mean, since then Holyfield has gone the distance in every one of his losses, and that includes two heavyweight champions. even if they are lousy champs...they are heavyweights.

              why someone would not respect Toney's power at 168 is beyond me. He had more knockouts there than decision wins, and only 1 person went the distance in his successsful title defences.

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              • Great matchup Larryx

                Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View Post
                Toney would win a decision. He was the kind of elusive boxer/counter puncher that would give Joe fits, and when he was in shape he could keep it up for the full 12 rounds. Joe is a good adaptable fighter, but that would be irrelavent when fighting someone who is versatile with that kind of hand speed, and i didn't see him adjust to either Reid or Hopkins(who both arguebally beat him). He punched hard enough to get Joe's respect as well.

                That's about what I was thinking.

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                • toney ......

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                  • Originally posted by Malcolm. View Post
                    Calzaghe by brutal KO
                    One of the guys with the worst brutal - genunie - KO (not TKO) records ever in the game (among established boxers) is going to brutally knock out one of the guys with the greatest ever chins?

                    nah

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                    • Originally posted by Technical_Skill View Post
                      One of the worst posts I ever read on this forum, but its your opinion.

                      1) At 23 years old James Toney knocked out probably the best fighter at that time in Michael Nunn, a guy that during his time was apparently dodged by other top fighters (benn, eubanks, roy jones)

                      2) Calzaghe can barely live with a 43 year old hopkins, split decision with robin reid, how the f.uck Is he gonna hurt a prime james toney, who went the distance with heavyweight hitters like sam peter.

                      Crazy ****, dont bother replying tho, i dont wanna hear it.
                      that right there hit the nail. nothing more need be said.

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