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Can we now say that Vitali Klitscko is a top 5 heavyweight?
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Originally posted by KostyaTszyu44 View Postwow tunney actually acknowledges ali is an ATG heavyweight
not a bad list, but marciano shouldnt be quite so high and no way should wlad and vitali be above holyfield, thats crazy
Having him high on an ATG list is a failure roids or not. He holds the record for losses in titlefights if I remember correctly.
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Originally posted by BattlingNelson View PostEvan Fields name should always be followed by an asterisk.
Having him high on an ATG list is a failure roids or not. He holds the record for losses in titlefights if I remember correctly.
because he fought everyone until age 46 and hes still going
7 of his 10 losses came after age 37
holyfield is probably one of the only active fighters today to have fought in a 15 rounder
holyfield fought a whos who of the HW division in the 90's, and beat plenty of them, hes also the greatest CW of all time
i was talking boxing with a relative the other week and i mentioned holyfield was still fighting, they said "holy crap i remember watching him fight tyson back in '96, he must be 50 now!"
evander is a true warrior and an ATG
but of course you follow european fighters who have records of like 40-0 without fighting anyone, you wouldnt understand that a fighters record doesnt always tell the full story and that the level of comp and the quality of the fighters you've beat means more than anything, so ill excuse youLast edited by KostyaTszyu44; 03-22-2009, 04:01 PM.
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Originally posted by BattlingNelson View PostEvan Fields name should always be followed by an asterisk.
Having him high on an ATG list is a failure roids or not. He holds the record for losses in titlefights if I remember correctly.
I think Vitali would have defeated a fighter prime Holyfield lost to twice, namely Bowe. It took Bowe much longer to KO Herbie Hide. For certain, either Klitschko would have KOed Moorer.
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Originally posted by Marciano 49-0 View PostHolyfield lost to Larry Donald, who Vitali won every round against and was the first to stop. Evander lost to Byrd, who was easily beaten twice by Wladimir, and to Ruiz.
I think Vitali would have defeated a fighter prime Holyfield lost to twice, namely Bowe. It took Bowe much longer to KO Herbie Hide. For certain, either Klitschko would have KOed Moorer.
holyfield wasnt really prime when he fought bowe dude
and moorer would have probably beaten either klit
and holyfield lost to donald when he was ancient, so just STFU
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Originally posted by KostyaTszyu44 View Postwonder why he has so many losses???
because he fought everyone until age 46 and hes still going
7 of his 10 losses came after age 37
holyfield is probably one of the only active fighters today to have fought in a 15 rounder
holyfield fought a whos who of the HW division in the 90's, and beat plenty of them, hes also the greatest CW of all time
i was talking boxing with a relative the other week and i mentioned holyfield was still fighting, they said "holy crap i remember watching him fight tyson back in '96, he must be 50 now!"
evander is a true warrior and an ATG
but of course you follow european fighters who have records of like 40-0 without fighting anyone, you wouldnt understand that a fighters record doesnt always tell the full story and that the level of comp and the quality of the fighters you've beat means more than anything, so ill excuse you
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Originally posted by Marciano 49-0 View PostHolyfield lost to Larry Donald, who Vitali won every round against and was the only one to ever stop him. Evander lost to Byrd, who was easily beaten twice by Wladimir, and to Ruiz.
I think Vitali would have defeated a fighter prime Holyfield lost to twice, namely Bowe. It took Bowe much longer to KO Herbie Hide. For certain, either Klitschko would have KOed Moorer.
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